A sibling dispute over food turned deadly on Wednesday when a 13-year-old boy found an unsecured gun at home, killed his 6-year-old brother, injured his other 16-year-old brother, and then committed suicide. The boys are just the latest victims added to the long list of dead kids, courtesy of America’s gun culture.
Pasco County Sheriff Chris Nocco said that the 16-year-old called police at 6:19 p.m. and asked for help after his brother shot him. The shooting occurred while the boys’ mother was at work and another, 18-year-old brother, was not at home. Police arrived and found two boys dead and the 16-year-old with a non-life threatening gunshot wound.
This is a horrific scene,” Nocco said. “This is a nightmare when you hear about the ages of these boys, a 6-year-old that was probably playing in his room, an argument over food and he lost his life.
Deputies are still investigating the crime and trying to find out whose gun was used in the shooting.
Republicans claim that there isn’t a gun problem in this country, but the sheer number of dead and injured kids, nearly 10,000 a year, tells a much different story. In this case, we have a teenage boy who was able to get his hands on a gun and kill his little brother and himself. Is that not a problem?
They will say,”That gun owner wasn’t a ‘responsible gun-owner’ like the rest of us.” That’s their go-to excuse; the problem with that line is that they are responsible until they are not.
Liberals don’t want your guns, but we do want people to practice safety. A 13-year-old should not ever, ever, ever be able to get ahold of a gun. Period.
I come from a family of gun-owners, and they are always locked up when my 10-year old is around. As a matter of fact, my gun-owning brother, who recently retired from the Army, is staying with our parents where my son spends a lot of time. Just this morning my brother said,”My gun is under my bed, so please don’t bring Aidan over until I get home so I can put my gun in the safe.” Simple gun-safety.
So many kids would be alive if all ammosexuals would just keep their guns locked up when children are around. It’s common sense, isn’t it?
Watch a news report on the shooting:
Featured image via WTSP
Thanks GOP!
sheep
Jackass.
I’m sure you’ve heard this before.
I think I’m gonna go out and shoot an innocent little animal, just because of your stupid post.
whatever floats your goat.
Does it “float your goat” to loudly proclaim that the only reason for gun ownership is compensation for small manhood? Do you have any idea how ridiculous it makes you sound? Guess you don’t realize how many WOMEN own and use guns in this country, huh? Or perhaps the increasing numbers of women carrying concealed weapons for protection? Or perhaps that all 100,000,000+ of us needing compensation is kinda far-fetched, wouldn’t ya say?
my post much have touched a nerve. I can only wonder why. oh wait!
You give yourself to much credit. Seriously, if this is the best you can come up with, ever wonder why you gun grabbers are losing this argument so badly? I wonder which state will be next to allow concealed carry on college campuses? Or the next to allow permitless carry? And all that people like you can come up with has to do with genetalia. Very mature, very effective, very nice.
first rule of firearm safety you never store a loaded weapon and you never keep ammunition with the weapon
The issues is ammosexuals don’t believe in firearm safety. They don’t care who they kill, can’t say I’m not upset if its one of their own though. Sorry its kids that are the ones getting hurt but it is what it is.
therein lies the biggest problem…no education about safety just how to buy clean and wave them about, not how to be actually responsible
“buy, clean and wave them about” …funny!
thanks i try
thin the herd
You first.
Real appropriate, your comment has been flagged.
poor butt hurt libtards
F and U
you are a disgrace to the human race. you want to thin the herd? please start with yourself!
Sometimes I have to tell myself it’s just not worth the jail time.
You sir are a treasonous punk.
you will hang from trees like Christmas ornaments libtards
scumbag libtards will all hang
That’s a good idea, there, Brucie - if Americans had started that “thinning” with YOU and every last one of you TeaPubliKKKlanners the minute you crawled out of the sewers, this country would be in a lot better shape right now. FYI: It’s not yet too late for us to start.
You couldnt be a bigger…. no, i wont stoop to your level. We do believe in gun safety! If you actually looked into our culture, youd see that we do! It is stressed everywhere anything official, such as ranges, gun shows, professional training videos and the like. I have a 15 year old son, and he is trained and respects firearms completely to the point that I can trust him at a range or in the house with my weapons and I know he would never betray that trust. Because I have trained him right!!! The people in articles like this, dont! Theres a difference. Now take down the pic of the cup as your profile pic. Lord Stanley was a firearm owner, hed be ashamed of you!
Awww Robert, how good to see you again! What did I ever do to be able to partake in this moment. Here have a goat, since I’m too small and insignificant to fit under your bridge.
Typical gun grabber, no knowledge of the facts, wouldn’t care about them even if you knew them … yikes
Actually I’m a collector of rare and antique guns and rifles. I have everything from a 1878 Smith and Wesson revolver, my grandfather’s 30-06 rifle, to WW2 Soviet weapons. (TT 33, Nagant and a 1949 Makarov which was used to replace the TT33.) In spite of these fine firearms that I own, they are all insured, licensed, and locked in a gun safe with the ammo kept away from immature, irrational, irresponsible adults and kids alike. See unlike you, I don’t pay my dues to the NRA, I am not an ammosexual, and if god forbid someone got hurt with one of my weapons it would kill me. Now here I think you need a goat, your way to “uptight” for me.
Gee, you own a few old guns, so that gives you license to make blanket statements about those who don’t agree with you on gun policy, calling us immature “ammosexuals” and the like? Nice.
You clearly live in a facist state/country that requires you to register your firearms. Let’s hope your government doesn’t suddenly decide you’re too irresponsible or dangerous or otherwise unworthy to own said firearms.
Oh, and if you own more than one gun, you clearly ARE an “ammosexual,” now aren’t you?
Wait you don’t like my goat meme? (Hits too close to home?) Awww too bad! Someone needs another goat!
Actually, your goat memes are fine, it’s your argument that stinks to high heaven. You can name-call and whine all you want, but you have no argument to back up your rhetoric. And you wonder why your ilk is losing this battle so badly.
Good thing there are hardly any “ammosexuals” out there. We regular gun owners care greatly about safety, as does the NRA. The NRA spends millions every year training young people in firearm safety. I’m not sure who these “ammosexual” guys are, but they sound like they suck.
So the 10,000+ gun deaths a year are not from ammosexuals but “responsible” gun owners? Thanks for clearing that up! Btw, how’s crazy Wayne doing these days? Glad to see he’s the face of the NRA. LOL……
Nope, those deaths are mostly happening in the poverty-stricken inner cities, thanks to the failed war on drugs, gang activity, and simply poverty, and are NOT committed by the vast majority of America’s 100,000,000+ gun owners. Not that you actually care about the truth, but Bill Whittle wrote a really excellent article explaining these numbers very well.
http://www.truthrevolt.Org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet
Wow, so Sandy Hook was because its a inner city ghetto, and the kid in this story also must live on the “mean streets” with the gang bangers. That’s right! Dad is an OG…….ROFLMAO!
I’m sorry Religion, I can’t read any more of your comments, you are so full of sh*t that you believe you smell good! Wow, some mental hospital is missing their patient, please tell me, where are you located so that I can notify them ASAP!
(Oh btw, your Right wing rhetoric is not truthful, you are so brainwashed into believing such crap that you wouldn’t be able to see a lie if it slapped you sideways!)
Yup, Sandy Hook was terrible, but such mass shootings are ultra rare. If we’re being honest and truly interested in reducing our levels of “gun violence,” you should have the courage to admit that the vast majority of these shootings do indeed happen in places like NY and Chicago. Do you not care at all about the tens of thousands of inner-city adults and children that have been killed since Sandy Hook? Or do you only care about the type of shootings that make the national news for weeks?
I find it hilarious how you claim that my “right wing rhetoric is not truthful,” yet you are entirely incapable of actually responding to my argument. You didn’t even look at that article I provided, did you? I didn’t think you were actually interested in the truth. Looks like I was right. Pathetic. Go back to humping your goats.
So the Colorado theatre shooting was ultra rare too? How about Arizona? Or the recent school shooting in Marysville Wa? These must be super rare too! There are more, of course you know this, however your heroes have sold you a line of falsehoods that these deaths, these people don’t matter. More food for the trough, you witless swine! Go eat your fill of the blood of the innocent. You are a sick, disturbed and in need of help. I have a feeling that I might someday see you in the news, facing trial for you rehensible irresponsibility. Go away troll, you are no longer worth my time.
Perhaps math isn’t your strong suit, or perhaps you don’t understand the meaning of the word “rare.”
The CO shooting happened in July 2012, and since then we’ve had a few other high profile shootings like this. How many dead total as a result of mass shootings? Maybe 50-60? 100? Now, what happened to your vaunted “11,000 gun deaths!!!” statistic?
In the 2-1/2 years since the CO shooting, there have been potentially 825,000,000 potential victims of “gun” violence (330 million US population x 2.5 years). In that time we’ve had approximately 28,000 “gun” deaths, and only double digit mass shooting deaths.
So, you have a 0.0000000727% chance of dying in a mass shooting, and only a 0.0000333% chance of dying by intentional gun homicide. I’m not sure what your definition of “rare” is, but clearly you’re confused. Clean that froth from your mouth and open your mind a little bit.
No perhaps life isn’t yours. Goodbye troll
Lol, you have no answer AT ALL to my solid logic, no argument to offer, just more bluster and name-calling. Remind me again why you gun grabbers are losing this fight so badly again? LOL
You sure are a whole world of stupid, if you can’t understand that a conversation is over. Goodbye troll.
So you keep saying, along with the name-calling. Feel free to go away, or feel free to actually provide evidence in support of your pathetic, whiny claims.
Flagged. Goodbye TROLL
You’re pathetic. Flag all you want. What are they going to ban me for? Sharing my opinion? You’re the one name calling and behaving inappropriately. Pathetic
Flagged. Goodbye Troll
Hmmmm, interesting. Your definition of “troll” seems to be “anyone who disagrees with me.” You do know that’s not how it works, right?
You want me to go away? Yelling at me and threatening to “flag” my comments isn’t going to do it. How about you show me where I went wrong? How about you make your case with more than empty threats, whining, and name-calling?
You just got curb stomped, and you know it. It’s so far beyond pathetic to then stamp your little feet and whine about “trolls,” when you know full well that sharing information, providing opinions, and engaging in honest academic debate is the farthest thing from “trolling” imaginable. You’re just a terrible debater who apparently an’t think beyond the anti-gun talking points being fed to him by MSNBC, Huffpo, Motherjones, and the like. Again, pathetic.
Flagged. Goodbye Troll.
Your argument is invalid, because goat-cat!
lol, nice…makes me think of:
My hair is a bird, your argument is invalid
I reject your reality, and substitute my own!
LOL Adam Savage you are not. No your reality is a world where lives don’t matter. We if you kill someone its Oops Sorry! You live a delusion, and you the fool in it.
Funny how the only lives that “matter” to grabbers like you are those taken in mass shootings that are covered in the national news. I guess you don’t care about all those inner city Chicago kids dying in droves, eh? Guess you don’t care that the CDC reports that Americans use their guns for legal self defense hundreds of thousands of times per year, huh? Clueless windbag.
Trolls will troll. You have brought nothing to this conversation, we’re through. Have a good day.
“Nothing” eh?
Putting your fingers in your ears and humming loudly isn’t going to make my argument go away. Pathetic. Remind me again why you gun grabbers are losing this argument so badly? HAHAHAHA
Conversation is over, yet you babble on. Perhaps you need to have your meds adjusted. Goodbye troll.
And yet here you still are, still with the name-calling, still unable to actually respond to my rock-solid argument. Pathetic.
Yes I am still here, and I will continue to be. You and your pathetic, idiotic, folks are not going to run me and/or anyone else who is against your kind off. Time to go troll. I’ll start flagging your comments. Goodbye TROLL.
Aah, so it sounds like you’re running scared. The only way you have of dealing with me and my rock-solid argument is to ignore me and try to get me to leave. Shannon Watts, is that you?
I’m not sure what would get my comments flagged and yours not, you’re the one busting out with all the name-calling.
Flagged. Goodbye Troll.
No, that’s not the first rule, and a home defense weapon is useless without ammo.
I’m not an ammosexual, just a gun owner. But idiot statements like yours don’t help.
Sure, keep them away from kids (I have none, and none have EVER entered my house), lock them in a quick-access box. But ammo nowhere nearby? “Excuse me, home invader, can you stand there while I run and get my ammo?” (Before you pull the brain-dead statement that home invasions are rare, Google “Craigslist home invasion”. And there have been a number of them in my county lately, including one just a few miles from my house.)
There is the ideal, and there is reality. Keeping the ammo locked up separately from guns you may only use once a year during a hunting season, sure.
And write laws with teeth, *nation wide*, that force charges in cases like this. There are mandatory sentences in FL for crimes committed with a gun. There should be mandatory sentences for parents that leave their guns accessible to their children and the child shoots someone.
And close the background check loopholes already!
tell me oh omniscient one, since you know what i am about to type, where did i say no where nearby i simply said not with the weapon as in it could be in a little box on top of the weapon but not in the same box tell me then is three inches that far away? oh that rule i said was from the NRA safety class i had to take when i got my own permits. or are you saying the NRA rules are idiotic? but then you just seem to want to keep loaded guns in your house where the home invader you seem to be expecting to come through the door any moment can get to it just as easy as you could or so it seems (hypotheticals are fun aren’t they now lets talk about when ISIS comes over the boarder throwing balloons full of Ebola at christians because they are so persecuted) moron.
Good thing they had a gun in the house or they might have been robbed.
they have a bottle of aspirin in the house too-but obviously have learned to keep it away from children so maybe that is the route we could take? maybe guns should be treated as a killer and be kept safe. millions of guns are not going to disappear just because you don’t like them so suggest ways to keep guns safe around children. we have created child proof bottle caps for this reason so the logical step is to find a way to make these items safer or hold parents responsible if they dont
Look up the word “satire “, it might help you recognize it in the future.
Your sarcasm is duly noted, but just in case you didn’t know-most adults choose not to minimize their conversation with immature sarcasm-it diminishes what could have been an intelligent conversation.
Responsible gun owners are a myth.
what a idiot
“What a idiot”, he says…. All while not realizing “What an idiot” would show that he is not completely retarded while insulting others from the comfort of his mommy’s basement.
“an” not “a”.
At least TRY to write your native language at an adult level, there, Brucie…
You’d best brush up on those photoshop skills if you’re seriously trying to fool anyone, Bruce.
Uh huh. Roughly a third of Americans are gun owners (about 100,000,000), yet we only see about 11,000 gun murders per year (the majority of these taking place in poverty and gang-stricken inner-city environments), and only about 600 accidental deaths per year. Sorry, but your math just doesn’t add up.
I have only been online for a littlemore than a year. I have only been making comments for about six months. Unfortunately it seems to me many people seem to believe that freedom is equivalent to dead young people. People praise our troops and imply their deaths secure freedom. I don’t understand how that works. I have the impression from some NRA supporters that lives will be sacrificed for the second
amendment. What are you to do? This attitude is just that, an attitude rather than a logical thought process.
I have the impression from some NRA supporters that lives will be sacrificed for the second amendment.
Funny, you don’t ALSO get this “impression” from the gun grabbing liberals screaming up and down that gun owners only care about “their little toys” and that they don’t care about the lives of children? Perhaps you should get out more.
Our troops die defending our country’s interests around the world, helping to keep the world stable and places like Iran and North Korea from developing the types of weapons that could do us serious harm. Has it really been so long since WWII that you really don’t understand how the sacrifice of our military personnel is what it takes to maintain our freedoms?
he should stand trial with bergdahl
You have issues…I suspect incest.
There are four brains accessible on the ground in this picture. Grab one or two of them I think you might need them.
So breaking away from one’s home country is a conservative value? You do realize that the conservatives in this country at the time of the revolution wanted to stay a part of Britain?
Flagged. Off topic.
You obviously have mental health issues, I take it they took away your guns because of this? (GOOD!)
come and try libtard
Flagged.
Why would a liberal cut off the heads of liberals.
Molyneaux, I wish one of you TeaPubliKKKlan TRAITORS actually had the balls to talk to me face-to-face like you chickensh*t SOBs do on the internet. I’d like to show y’all the difference between an ammosexual wanna-be and a real *gun handler*…
“But guns keep us safe”……….Wow, bet they sure feel safe now!
Listen-what law is going to change what these parents did? If they are that stupid and irresponsible they would have owned the guns anyway!
criminal negligence contributing to the death of a minor child endangerment reckless abandonment there are several that will at the very least make sure that the gun owners are not going to keep the surviving child and make them remember that they chose a gun over the kids
YES!
YOU are the problem, with your salacious straw man argument, Kristina. NO ONE is saying your guns should be taken away! We want gun control, including background checks, safety classes, and gun locks. Had that gun been locked the 2 kids would be alive.
First of all-I don’t own a gun-I don’t believe in having a gun in a home with children. But I don’t believe in abortion either-doesn’t mean I would tell someone else what their rights are. I think we should make better laws for containment of guns and safety but to outlaw them does not make them go away! It only makes them illegal-like the tons of other things that are illegal. Why did they make marijuana legal? Because you aren’t going to get rid of it by making a law. This way at least their is some organization and rules to the use of it-same as guns! I think you are a nasty person. I simply argued a logical perspective-something you obviously don’t understand. These guns should have been locked away-shame on those parents-what morons-but laws would not have protected these children. Responsible parenting would have-just like a child that is poisoned from getting into the medicine cabinet-can’t make medicine illegal right? So we need to educate people-unfortunately a lot of people are idiots and must learn from tragedies such as this.
Hi Kristina
Then would you please clarify that vague statement: “We don’t want your guns”? What does that mean exactly? Does that mean no guns or safer gun use? I believe if it is safer gun use you are advocating then you should have phrased it as such. The way it is written gives the presumption that the author is against guns and wants to outlaw them. We really can’t outlaw guns-it’s like Prohibition-the monster is too big to eliminate. There are tens of millions of guns out there so even outlawing them is not going to make them go away. We have to think of better ways to make guns safe. An example would be laws that prosecute parents that have no kept guns away from their children. Other laws could include guns not being allowed out of a locked compartment when a child is within the vicinity. I am sure there are other things we could come up with to REALLY makes guns safe rather than people just bashing each other and putting themselves on a moral pedestal because they don’t happen to own one. I want kids to be safe too, and guns are not going anywhere so let’s write an article on what we can do about that!! Thank you for your response Shannon-blessings!
Hi Kristina, I agree with you that to outlaw guns in the United Staes would be painful for many years to come.
However, one little thing we could do is hold gun owners and gun manufacturers responsible for negligent gun deaths.
Make it a crime to leave a gun available where a child could get it. This is one simple step we could take as a nation to help enforce the ideas of gun safety.
Exactly!! The government brainwashed people to go against guns because it suits their agenda-but the reality is this could and never will happen. The point is though that it is illegal to sell a gun to a child so it should be illegal for them to possess them. Since the child is not responsible for themselves it is the parents who should be responsible or whoever put that gun in the child’s hand. Leaving a loaded gun laying around where a curious child can get it is the same as sticking it in their hand. Also, guns should have better safety’s on them. A child can’t open a bottle of aspirin but can shoot a gun! Outrageous! I think instead of people focusing on something that will never be a reality the focus should be on real solutions to this problem. Thanks for your comment Brian!
Everyone knows that handguns will never be illegal. Never. Once you pro-gunners understand this, we can work together to find solutions.
Ummm Kristina, I don’t think the government has brainwashed people to go against guns, I think it’s more like people seeing others not keep, store, and use their guns responsibly. People seeing useless, wasteful death, due to carelessness, and negligence.
It really doesn’t take a whole lot of thought to figure out there are some seriously stupid people out there, who own weapons, and have NO idea how to keep their children or their weapons safe.
Umm..JamieHaman~ I will let you speak for yourself but there are thousands of people who are brainwashed into following political agenda so I guess we are one less puppet in the world. I have read many comments here against guns rather than the issue of gun safety-hence, my comment. People need to keep their children safe from many things-I have raised 12 children and can attest that there are countless objects in a home that can injure or kill. I find it appalling that we have not taken something as serious as a weapon into consideration for safety but will make sure bottle caps can’t be opened. Guns should have safety’s on them that prevent a child from using it, and should be kept from their hands. It is illegal for a CHILD to have a gun, so like any other illegal thing there should be a law that prosecutes severely adults who are irresponsible. If they are that stupid they honestly shouldn’t have a gun, but some people shouldn’t even have children. We can’t change the world, but might prevent some deaths with better gun safety. Thanks for your feedback Jamie-blessings!
We agree on everything but the brainwashing oh, and the letting me speak for myself??? Not your job. I don’t know what YOU think the “political agenda” is, but it isn’t taking someones guns. People who aren’t knowledgeable about weapons, are often frightened of them, and it’s hard blame them, when one reads about an Adam Lansing killing 26 people in 5 or so minutes
It doesn’t take much to figure out that the ignorance of the current ammosexuals is really harming and killing the children in this country. No body needs government brainwashing for that, and if you really think ‘they’ are only responding to a brainwashing program, not the estimated 35000 people who die each year of gunshot wounds, then I think you are seriously underestimating the intelligence of people who can read and comprehend.
Blessing my foot.
I have nothing to say to such ignorance-you took what I said out of context but I really don’t give a hoot-have a nice day!
Kristina, nowhere in the article does the author mention outlawing guns. You are the one who keeps bringing that up. It seems to be the way the conversation often goes - if we suggest better gun safety the pro-gun folks say we want to take away their guns. It is a good diversion from what the article is really about but it really isn’t relevant here.
uh..if you learn how to read-I mostly mention that we need more safety-so kiss mine! You obviously don’t think while you read or before you post!! some are against guns on here-so how much did you read Bambi? (wow-the name says it all)
Who’s going to enforce these mandatory gun locks? Random police inspections?
It will be quite obvious the gun was not locked if a child gains access to it. A federal law will be required that all states must follow. If the gun is used by the child to cause harm and/or death….your gun is confiscated and kept secured until after a probation period is met and the successful completion of gun safety training. Since, it is most often a gun advocates fear for their possession of a gun over the protection of a child, this may work and is not taking your gun. You get it back Your negligent actions deprives you of claiming to be law abiding…but there is no jail time/fines. If there is a second occurrence, you lose your right to own/possess a gun or at the very least…be able to keep it in your home.
No one is saying my guns should be taken away? Interesting. What if I live in New York or Connecticut and own a particular type of gun that those states have suddenly deemed “illegal,” despite the fact that I legally purchased them years ago? What about all those libturds calling for “assault” weapons bans? Have you forgotten all the libturd screaming and moaning over the banning of handguns back in the 80s? I’m afraid you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
Michele Obama’s food plan is to blame, we need more guns . If all those kids had guns ,maybe, just maybe Wayne LaPierre could rest at night. And Benghazi , and Emails …. that’s why children die in a gun owners home.
When, are they going to start charging these “responsible gun owners” with a crime like reckless endangerment and child abuse with a prison sentence and a HUGE fine to boot? WHEN?? It very well may stop some of this.
” is a speck of blue in the extremely red state of Florida.”
I live in FL, and in a pretty red county, but I realize, and statewide elections prove, that FL is roughly 50/50. We’re about as purple as a state can get.
Did Hanging Chad not prove that to you?
Why does the word “responsible” strike such fear in the hearts of SOME gun owners. Responsible doesn’t = they’re coming for my guns.
“The boys are just the latest victims added to the long list of dead kids, courtesy of America’s gun culture.”
I
take exception to this. There are millions and millions of responsible
gun owners in this “gun culture” that handle their firearms in a safe
manner. No need for the author to indict the whole group. The reason
these things happen are irresponsible gun owners. No different than
irresponsible drivers who drink (or drive fast or other unsafe
operation) and kill someone. You’ll never hear “America’s car culture”
used in the same manner as “gun culture”.
Liberals don’t want your guns, but we do want people to practice safety.
Well, maybe THIS liberal author in particular, but you shouldn’t pretend to speak for all the rest of liberaldom, one of whose primary stated goals is the banning of most (if not all) firearms in this country, just like in places like England and Australia. Remember Obama’s praise of Australia’s gun laws recently? His plan, were he able to actually do it, would involve mass firearm confiscations.
A 13-year-old should not ever, ever, ever be able to get ahold of a gun. Period.
Well, close, let me fix that for you: “A 13-year-old should not ever be able to get ahold of a gun UNSUPERVISED.”
Please don’t act like children shouldn’t be exposed to guns, as it sounds like you’re advocating a Holder-like brainwashing of children to view guns as mysterious and evil. Children should be taught in a careful, supervised manner to understand and respect guns.
I’m in Central Kentucky, asswipe. You just let me know when you get here.
Yeah, that’s what I thought. Typical TeaPubliKKKlanner - all mouth, no balls.
Any time you got the b*lls, sonny boy. I’m in Eastern Kentucky - you just let me know when you get here, and you can learn your lesson the hard way.
Ignore him , I have made attempts to meet him 1/2 way for months . Charlie is a pathetic little Man Boy .
I am in West Texas and tell him when I will be in Louisiana , he always has an excuse.
I do not think his Mom allows him to use her car.