10 Facts That Will Drive Your Fox-Spewing Relatives Crazy This Holiday

Arm yourself with 10 solid facts to debunk your Fox spewing uncle at your holiday gathering. If he gets really belligerent, take him outside and cool him down with the garden hose. Happy Holidays!

Top 10 Facts That Will Make Your Tea Party Uncle’s Head Explode:

1: The U.S. economy grew at a rate of 5 percent in third quarter, the fastest rate in more than a decade. Source: The Wall Street Journal & The Washington Post

2: Gasoline prices are the lowest since May 2009. The current average price per gallon in the U.S. is $2.38. Source: CNN Money & NBC News

3: The White House had no connection to alleged targeting of Tea Party groups by the IRS. Source: The New York Times

4: A GOP Congressional report found no wrongdoing by the Obama Administration surrounding the Benghazi attacks. The fabricated charges have been thoroughly debunked. Source: CBS News

5: Growth in government spending has been the slowest under President Obama than both Bush’s and Reagan. Source: The Fiscal Times

6: Climate change is real according to 97% of climate scientists. Sources: NASA & The Union of Concerned Scientists

7: President Obama is not intent on destroying the U.S. economy. Dow topped 18,000 for first time. Sources: Star Tribune & CNBC

8: The Bush Administration lied to the U.S. about the use of torture. Sources: The Atlantic & Forbes

9: Obama has taken only a third of the vacation days and less than half of the trips as G.W. Bush. Source: Mediaite

10: Fox viewers are the least informed Americans. Sources: Poynter.org & Business Insider

And here’s a bonus guide called:

The Democrat’s Guide to Talking Politics With Your Republican Uncle.

Happy Holidays!

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  • Josh says:

    know what would be fantastic? If any of this were even true….4: A GOP Congressional report found no wrongdoing by the Obama Administration surrounding the Benghazi attacks. The fabricated charges have been thoroughly debunked. Source: CBS News

    Trey growdy leads the Benghazi scandal committee, and it’s not over yet…LOL. so nice try. if the us grew, why is unemployment, without using Bureau of labor and statistics bullshit data skew, say it’s 22%, higher than it was during bush’s by 6 percent? lol, yeah, we gotta liberalize so the truth isn’t known…

    let’s work on fixing america…bush started his presidency with near 750 billion dollars a year deficit, in 2008, it was down to 248 billion, obama in 5 years, from 2008 to 2014, added more than the first 43 presidents, INCLUDING bush, combined!!!, and that doesn’t even account for the interest accrued since the national debt started in 1789 by Alexander Hamilton as the then secretary of treasury, with a 19.608.81$ loan…

    #libslietofeelgood

    • DogmaDestroys says:

      You are a special kind of stupid, Josh. The kind of stupid, in fact , that makes the publishing of articles like this one pretty much an exercise in futility, because you can lead a pathetic Fox News Zombie like you to facts, but you can’t make it accept them if they contradict your bigoted preconceived delusions. But what the hell, embarrassing you and exposing your lies and delusions will be fun: Bush started his presidency with a a SURPLUS of over $200 Billion left him by the Clinton admin (FY 2001). Look it up, idiot. And then LEFT office with an unprecedented $1.4 TRILLION deficit. (FY 2009).

      And then, like every other idiot Fox Zombie I encounter, you pathetically try to conflate the deficit with the national debt (are there ANY conservatives out there who know the difference between the two any more?) with your “Obama added more” horsedung. WRONG, idiot. After inheriting a debt of about $11-12 Trillion, Obama is on pace to hit about $18 Trillion - a 50% increase - which looks pretty bad until you consider that under your idiot idol Reagan, the debt more than doubled (that would be a greater increas than 50% BTW, moron). It nearly doubled again under the combined presidencies of Bush the Elder and Bush the Dumber).

      As far as Gowdy’s investigation - what are you expecting them to find that the past EIGHT Congressional investigations did not? Fox Zombies are like stupid animals drawn to shiny objects with your Benghazi obsessions at this point. It’s simply pathetic.

      So, I challenge you to refute (or “refudiate” you’re one of those EXTRA SPECIAL kind of idiots who idolize Sarah Palin) any FACT I stated here. You can’t.

    • Sherry Haltom says:

      Josh, all I can do is laugh at you and your so-called facts. You need to get a grip and watch something besides Faux ‘ENTERTAINMENT. There is no way this country was even close to being good under Bush. He tried to destroy us all and you know it. Stop the bull!

      • Stone Joseph says:

        Just like to add that journalist are sopposed to be fair and impartial, and if there is anybody out there that can say Fox news is fair and impartial I got a used car I like to sell you. So you see Josh they are not even real Journalist, all they do is spread lies and try to divide the nation, And because of thousands of people like you its working. I find it sad and heart breaking because United we are strong, divded we are weak. So get your head out of your ass!

    • Paul Wagner says:

      Bush started his presidency with a surplus and proceeded to destroy the economy worse than Reagan did.

    • Jan123456 says:

      Josh, This appear to be a site that does not allow links to be posted. The latest congressional investigation into Benghazi from the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (this is the 7th congressional investigation that dovetails nicely with the first 6) said “US personnel made reasonable tactical decisions” and found “no evidence of either a stand down order or denial of available air support”. You can find the pdf of the entire report by doing a search on “benghazi report released November 2014 pdf”

      If you’re going to quote statistics on unemployment, make sure the
      same methodology used in December 2014 is the same as that was used in
      January 2009. An apples to apples comparison if you will.

      Regarding Bush vs. Obama deficits….remember that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars,
      as well as Medicare Part D were financed “off the books”. They did not go “on the books” until Obama became president. Hence the large deficit he started with.

      • Spacewarp says:

        So, Jan, the sworn testimony of the people wasn’t enough to say “hey, there’s a problem here” when despite the report, they testified that there was an order.
        The also testified that no proceed order was given by the president or the Secretary of State’s office meaning the only two folks who could actually do something didn’t. Sure. That’s great. At some point, the truth, as presented in sworn testimony (which the Democrats would not allow into the reports), will emerge. The other committees have had to shut down because of too much political pressure on the right, and the only one that is ongoing is the one that is being run by a man who will not bend on it. So, yes, you can sit there and quote the whitewash jobs by the DNC and be proud that your party hid from the truth. At some point, when you have the people on the ground saying “I got this order” someone had to have given it.

        • Jan123456 says:

          Space,

          the sworn testimony of the people

          What people? Do they have names? If “they” actually exist, why would the GOP led (Mike Rogers, Chairman) Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence have ignored that? If it actually happened, why wouldn’t the GOP members have issued a statement decrying the Democrat’s refusal to allow sworn testimony in the reports? (btw, since the GOP has been imajority party of the House since before the Benghazi episode, GOP chairs all committees and can bully the Dems. (See Daryl Issa and Elijah Cummings argument over Issa’s shutdown of Cummings’ microphone during a hearing.)

          No, the other committees did not have to shut down. Six of them issued reports. And as I said to Josh, this site does not seem to allow the posting of links. Until I remembered that, I had them posted here. If you do a search on “congress benghazi report pdf” you will be able to see them. Just make sure to look at the actual reports as issued by congressional committees, not some right wing site’s editorial on them.

          What makes you think only the President or Secretary of State can give an order to protect a diplomatic compound? I can see how you might read that from some right wing site anxious to feed red meat to its base, but in reality????

    • Stevecorbin says:

      BLS statistics re employment and labor are the same ones that have been used for decades during every administration. Get a brain. Numbers are not political opinions. They are numbers.

  • russell conrad lewis says:

    As if the Fox folks would ever let something as trivial as facts and the truth sway them.

    • Larry Dickman says:

      “Media outlets such as Fox News and MSNBC have a negative impact on people’s current events knowledge while NPR and Sunday morning political talk shows
      are the most informative sources of news, according to Fairleigh Dickinson University’s newest PublicMind survey.”

      Fox News has Sunday morning political talk shows therefore, according to the article, Fox News is one of the most informative sources of news!

  • Glenda Lynette Brinkley says:

    When faced with facts the GOP, are either rude or quiet. The ability to discuss suddenly leaves.

  • Peter Combs says:

    its funny,,, so the drop in oil is a credit for the President even though the increase in production is all on private lands, but the behavior of the IRS, NSA tapping reporters, Fast and Furious etc and the bungling of Benghazi… are not laid at his feet? Its all spin…and depends on who’s doing the spinning…

  • nikflorida says:

    Thing is, none of this makes any difference. Those people plainly do not care about the facts that you just “make up” and aren’t “real” (to them). And none of this helps defuse a discussion about what a great president Ben Carson would be, which is why I had to leave my mother’s house yesterday.

    • Paul Wagner says:

      Ben Carson? The guy who grew up on welfare and food stamps? Who got free government glasses? Just cause you’re a good surgeon doesn’t make you smart, and he proves that every time he opens his mouth to spew nonsense and hatred.

      • Larry Dickman says:

        We have yet to have a black President. Ben Carson would be a fine President and outr first truly Black President. Sorry Obama lovers but Obama is a swirl cone.

  • wil9000 says:

    Please stop feeding the trolls.

  • Spacewarp says:

    Wow. Love the skewing of facts.

    The economy grew at 5%. As low as the economy had become over Obama’s tenure, you’re claiming that one good quarter is a great showing of how wonderful he’s doing. Amazing.

    Gas prices have dropped to the lowest in years (aside from the fact that Obama and his cohorts have done EVERYTHING they can do to eliminate production on public lands) and nobody seems to think there’s a correlation to the economic growth? The raising in production is not in any way, the result of any positive action of Obama or this administration. But, somehow this is a positive in Obama’s column. I see. Liberal logic missing the boat again.

    Of COURSE there’s been no “connection” proven to date with the illegal activities, when the people involved have stonewalled, lied, refused to comply with subpoenas and refused to testify. Being in the tech industry, I can guarantee you that unless they really did something disastrous, there is no way in the world that EVERY member of the group specifically subpoenaed to produce records had their hard drives fail. That’s a statistical impossibility.

    The GOP led Senate investigation has refused to produce the necessary subpoenas to provide information. They have refused to produce a report unless it was bipartisan. So, there was no way in the world the Senate investigation would produce any results. The House investigation is still ongoing. There were multiple other investigations in the House, as was noted by one of the comments, and 1, the Democrat sponsored one, released results that there were no problems, and the others were wrapped into the investigation that is ongoing. So., the lie that there is nothing to the investigation is just that. A flat lie.

    The “growth” in government is absolutely the biggest bunk of this entire “article”. When Bush was in his last year in office, there was a major financial crisis created by the Democrats. In a faulty effort to “fix” the problem, he implemented a major relief program that was supposed to be a 1 time infusion into the economy of approximately 1.7 trillion dollars. Did Obama keep it as a 1 time expenditure? No. He folded it into the budgeting and then claimed that he didn’t raise the budget more than a small amount to ensure that he was shown as being a miracle who didn’t raise the budget. The problem is, the level of federal spending was artificially inflated. So, in reality, since it was supposed to be a one-time expenditure, him keeping it was him using a little accounting gimmick to claim he didn’t raise our budget, while he did by a massive amount.

    Climate change is real according to 97% of the people who are paid to find climate change. There’s no conflict there. Really. We’ve had “a pause” or no increased warming, so that the people who are paid to find climate change realized they could no longer call it “global warming” so they called it “climate change” as if we didn’t realize there was changes in climate. So, at what point do they start paying attention to the major increase in global temperatures according to the researchers took the “average” across the globe at a point where there was some moving averages, but the largest increase came from the United States. What happened during that time? They started adding in more weather stations in the country during that time. Where did they add them more? They added them at the increased population centers. During that same time, where was the major increase in population in the United States? In the SOUTH. Where it’s….. HOT.

    The DOW is NOT the US Economy.

    I will admit, of the 10 items you have on this farce of a post, I have not researched the vacation claims, but I do believe the perception is considerably worse than the others. Not because he is or isn’t taking more vacations, but because of the fact that he is taking them right after major events.

    The “report” that claims that Fox News viewers are less informed is about as subjective as possible. There was not an objective or blind test to determine any “less informed” rate set. There is NOTHING in either of the two “reports” that comes close to any sort of reasonable level of scientific results.

    The objective result, by the fact that each of the “facts” that are placed in this “article” (better read “SPAM” or just “I had an article to write and just wanted to insult people who don’t believe in the same thing as I do”) were so easily refuted, please explain how this constitutes anything close to fact? I love the fact that the people who are responding to this from the left only throw out insults and refuse to actually use facts, but when presented with them, they just lie about it over and over, and claim they’re not using facts.

    Please feel free to refute any of the facts I placed above, but bear in mind, if you try, I will be glad to show you where you’re wrong.

    Oh, and the other fun one, (and if you need a presentation of my voting record or registration, you will find I’m able to prove, beyond a doubt) I am not a member of the GOP, nor have I ever registered as a Republican, and instead, I’ve been independent for my entire voting life.

    • Larry Dickman says:

      You sir win the Internet!

    • PITTSBURGH21 says:

      PENI DOLECTI

    • marchbald says:

      These are the facts, and ten paragraphs of excuses from a spaceywarp doesn’t change any of it, but proves the goal of the title.

      • Spacewarp says:

        Again, if you want to discuss facts and not just throw out insults, then we can talk. Basically you had your liberal mind blown that there was someone who could rip apart your favorite hit piece of the week with facts instead of the lies in the “article” and so refused to even try.

        How about you actually try to refute even one of the facts I presented. Or are you afraid that you will have your mind changed by a well informed viewer of Fox News?

        • Rick Goodrich says:

          WOW, you want people to debate the voices in your head? I assume FACT is the imaginary monkey shitting in your ear… The mere reality that Rupert Murdoch (Owner FNC) also owns ‘The Wall Street Journal” has eluded you. Your own master has confirmed the things you deny… Besides, it was your Fox News Cult hero’s, Bush and his evil sidekick Dick, that caused all of it anyway… I’ve seen and read some real stupid shit in my time, but, your ignorance cuts the cake… btw, weather and climate are not the same thing, SpaceTeaBilly… Climate change is caused by global warming…I really hate stupid Tea Klux Klan Fox News Cult members. They will parrot everything some imbecile tells them on an Entertainment channel with a name that sounds like a News station… I bet you thought WKRP in Cincinnati was a real radio station too… “a well informed viewer of Fox News?” Pfff!

    • Annika Keres says:

      I like that you refuse the scientific proof when it comes to global warming, but you claim that there isnt any scientific proof when it comes to fox news watchers being dumb… which is it? Do you want science or no?

    • Taymie says:

      I beleive we have just proven here that you can in fact lead a foxbot to facts, but you can’t make them BELIEVE said facts.

      The reason gas prices are so low is because ethanol is a real alternative. Made from corn, the production became significantly cheaper when Putin refused the free corn we had been giving the Russians for decades. With a cheaper alternative, the cost of crude oil had to go down in response to the competition.

      You can’t call something a fact simply because you think the lack of proof for said ‘fact’ is, in itself “proof” wow, that is insane.

    • pdderek says:

      Thanks for proving the author’s point Republican uncle

    • Jason Waters says:

      “One great quarter”?!? Look at the facts moron, we’ve had positive GDP growth for most of the Obama presidency. You guys drove the country off a cliff in ’07-’08, and then tried to blame him for the aftermath. You did everything you could to try to ensure that we stayed there too, but the “party of No” strategy didn’t work. The original stimulus wasn’t big enough to work quickly, but it did work. It provided a floor that stopped the freefall we were in at the time. Its not just GDP either, the unemployment rate is back to its lowest level since before the recession, and I can see it all around me. The commercial spaces that had been sitting empty all over my neck of the woods are starting to fill up with new businesses and the job posting pages are getting longer by the day.

      Oil is currently very cheap for several reasons. The recent plummet was caused by manipulation by OPEC. The Saudis have ramped up production in order to drive down the price because it was only the previous high price of oil that made refining expensive tar sands oil from our new oil fields economically viable. This drop forced the oil companies to sell off some of their oil futures which drove the price down even further. However the president does deserve credit here too, because despite you ignorance and to the consternation of people like me who would prefer to see us move away from fossil fuels, the Obama administration has been extremely generous when it comes to awarding mining rights for both oil and natural gas. Keystone XL is the only place they’ve held the line, and I think it’s solely because its Canadian oil, if this pipeline was carrying American oil he would do it.

      I love how you just assert a completely irrational statement like that the Democrats somehow created the financial crisis without a single statement to back it up. The recession was caused by the financial services sector, who spent the last 30 years molding US banking law to their benefit, to the point that they make more money selling bad loans than they do selling good ones. Politicians from both parties were complicit in this, but only the GOP still wants to double down on these policies now. I have no idea where you got this ridiculous paranoid fantasy that Obama somehow manipulated the budget to hide a massive increase in spending. We all saw what happened his first year in office, we had a big bump in spending from Bush and Obama’s stimulus packages, and the bailouts combined with a huge drop off of tax revenue from the recession and it made the year to year defecit ridiculous in 2009. However since then we’ve done nothing but cut the defecit, with the slowest rate of growth in government spending in the last hundred years. Government grew under GWB 3.4 % in his first term, Obama only 1.4 %, and I do believe we’re on pace to break that in his second term as well.

      There is no “pause” in the rise of global temperatures, 2014 was the hottest year on record. In fact 8 of the last 10 years previously held that distinction. The only “scientists” who disagree with that are paid lobbyists for the fossil fuel industry.

      You’re right about one thing, the DOW is not the US economy, but rightly or wrongly it has ALWAYS been used as a referendum on the president’s handling of the economy. You can’t have it both ways, that when its your guy it matters, but when its not we shouldn’t pay attention to it.

      Obama has taken way less vacation than either Bush or Reagan. Bush was on vacation over 300 days of his presidency, Reagan over 400, Obama has taken about 120 days. In fact the only president in recent memory who took less was Clinton who only took 90 or so days. However, the entire idea of criticizing the president for being on vacation is ridiculous. It doesn’t matter where they go or what they’re doing, they’re always the president, they’re always working. Its the toughest job on the planet, the least we could do is let them play a round of golf every now and then. Especially when things are at the most difficult, that’s when they need to relax. I know I do my best thinking when im relaxed and enjoying life.

      The part about Fox viewers being less informed was objectively true. They did multiple studies where they gave MSNBC, CNN, and Fox viewers high school level Civics and history tests, along with questions about current events, and Fox viewers on average tested the lowest, at least a full standard deviation below the norm. You should just be glad they didn’t ask science questions, because then it would be even worse.

    • KojiSky says:

      Did you get all of that from Fox News?

      • Spacewarp says:

        No. I got it from researching and independent analysis as well as from Fox News, CNN, Time and other news sources.

  • Patricia Stidham-Burns says:

    They will have a counter point to everything you say. It doesn’t matter what you say, what evidence you can show them, as long as the elephants FOX lying News and Rush Limbaugh are in the room you can hit them in the head with a brick and tell them they’re bleeding but, they will wait for Bill ‘O to tell them they are!

  • mikelartist says:

    I love the idiot wingnuts on here trying to whitewash the Bush years. They seem to forget that Bush took a SURPLUS and turned it into a hellish, plunging deficit and he did so LONG before the crash in 2008. He also never put his two wars on the books, but Obama did that his first week in office. That gave us a REAL look at the hole Bush/Cheney put us in. Let us also not forget not ONE but TWO Bush stimulus packages. Basic giveaways to make everything look rosy. Honesty is the best policy, and honestly Bush was the worst of the worst.

  • Larry Dickman says:

    By
    clicking on each of the links for each point, I found the
    following…

    1) “Not since 2003 has the economy expanded
    so quickly.”

    Who was President in 2003? GEORGE W. BUSH!
    And the rate it rose was 6.9%!

    2) “Gas Prices Drop to
    Lowest Since May 2009”

    Gas prices are based on oil prices
    and oil prices are mostly control by OPEC and what demand and supply
    are. Currently what is happening is OPEC
    has not cut back production in the hopes of making the oil market
    somewhat
    unprofitable for new
    oil
    companies which are fracking. Asia’s demand has dropped. We are
    driving more fuel-efficient cars so our demand has dropped.
    Presidents only cause price changes when countries embargo us. Who
    was President
    when that last happened? JIMMY CARTER!

    3) “The I.R.S. has
    admitted that before the 2012 election it inappropriately delayed
    approval of tax exemption applications by groups affiliated with the
    Tea Party movement…”

    So the IRS ADMITS to it! And who
    appointed the head of the IRS? BARRY OBAMA!

    4) This is
    actually a good link, but it says this, “The report did find,
    however, that the State Department facility where Stevens and Smith
    were killed was not well-protected, and that State Department
    security agents knew they could not defend it from a well-armed
    attack. Previous reports have found that requests for security
    improvements were not acted upon in Washington.”

    So the
    State Dept. didn’t give their members
    in
    Benghazi what they needed to
    protect the embassy. Who
    was the Sec. of State? HILLARY! And who appointed her? BARRY!

    5)
    “Nutting assigned the bulk of fiscal year 2009 spending to Bush,
    an assumption that other analysts have questioned.”

    And
    it should be questioned. Folks, you don’t have to be rocket
    scientists
    to understand under Obama, the PUBLIC DEBT WENT UP more than under
    all other Presidents
    combined. Spending
    had better be cut in order to create surpluses instead of deficits to
    pay off the public debt. Obama is the first President to have
    trillion dollar deficits. The
    growth of spending is meaningless if it is still growing. The
    famous Republican Senator who got Civil Rights to pass in the
    Congress Everett Dirksen once said, “A billion here. A billion
    there. Pretty soon you are talking real money.”

    6)
    “Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that
    climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to
    human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations
    worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this
    position.”

    First it was Global-Cooling then it became
    Global-Warming and now it is just Climate Change. 97% of scientist
    believe in it because it is true as if it cools the climate changes
    just as it does when it warms. In essence, if it cools or heats up,
    97% of climate change scientists will be proven right!

    7)
    Neither of these links needs to be quoted. The Dow went above 18,000
    points. And? Will people be equally happy when it goes above 19,000
    or 20,000 under another President from a different party? The Dow is
    not the economy.

    8) More links not needing to be quoted,
    however, both are about Dick Cheney who was PART of the Bush
    Administration. He was not the entire Bush Administration. Under the
    Obama Administration, GITMO remains open.

    9) The comments to
    the link provided are more truth-worthy than the actual article. How
    many times has Obama been golfing? How many trips? How many visits to
    Martha’s Vineyard? How many fund-raisers? Way more than 20 trips and
    129 days. Bush mainly went home to his ranch in Texas to relax
    whereas Obama goes everywhere.

    10) “Media outlets such as
    Fox News and MSNBC have a negative impact on people’s current
    events knowledge while NPR and Sunday morning political talk shows
    are the most informative sources of news, according to Fairleigh
    Dickinson University’s newest PublicMind survey.”

    Fox
    News has Sunday morning political talk shows therefore, according to
    the article, Fox News is one of the most informative sources of news!

    • PITTSBURGH21 says:

      Larry is smokin weed again …

      • Larry Dickman says:

        If you cannot rebut what I pointed out in the links the author used for this “article” then you are the weed smoker.

        • Stevecorbin says:

          Actually, some of the argued points are relevant and others not. We are all old enough or young enough to rememember that the US economy, and ultimately, the global economy, was on the ropes when Bush left and Obama assumed the presidency. The stimulus package was baked in when when Obama sat down at the desk. Howevr, does anyone doubt or forget where we were headed at that time. In truth, we are quite fortunate to have stabilized the economy in such a short (yes short!) period given that we were on the brink of disaster that could have lasted a decade or more. Re oil prices, presidents have pre ious little to do with them so should neither be credited or blamed, although the economy and the public certainly benefit in the short run.

          There is so much documentation as to the out sized role that Cheny playec in the Bush adminstration, including from Cheney himself who believed he deserved such a role, that dancing around this issue is a waste of time.

      • heftyjay says:

        And you’re smokin’ poles again. Now waddya want to talk about?

  • Josh says:

    lol, yeah, I guess reading classified reports from the ODNI is a “bad source”….I had multiple family members in DC for more than 35 years, I had a friend who was affiliated in a way with the NSA, in 2008 I met John Negroponte…I read the shit about Benghazi in 2014 from James Clapper, his successor,

    debt is total, deficit is the difference of what you take in, in a year, and what goes out…

    as for you and Jan, I guarantee I have had access to things neither of you know…

    when was bin laden killed? Answer 2006…NOT 2011…but it’s ok, if people knew how many times obama has lied to Americans…and yes, Bush was the shit.

    Please, tell me, when have you walked the Mclean Virginia buildings? Clearly, access is not something you’ve ever had in the upper echelons of the us gov’t.

  • So much ignorance in this. You should actually read the articles before listing them as sources for “facts”. An example would be #5. That’s based on one person’s calculations, and was highly based on assumptions. I’m not saying it’s outside the realm of impossibility, but it’s definitely not a fact. Besides, this only addresses a tiny faction of the issues people have with Obama.

  • Eric Domejean says:

    All this does not matter, the magic of Fox is they tell people what they want to believe.

  • MOM says:

    Clearly, the author does not have any real, FOX spewing, tea bagger relatives… or he would know that this list is as useless as spitting in the wind. -sigh- (But we can fantasize.)

  • Taymie says:

    oh for gods sake, if you want to act like you know things about “sciencey stuff” you need to actually understand the terms.

    Global Warming: a measurable and significant change the temperature of the earths crust. There can be no debate since numbers are numbers and you can’t change that. This is a measurement of the EARTH not the weather.

    Climate Change: Changes that occur to the climate of areas. We have no idea what the final climate change will look like for any area. right now we are experiencing the process of change which is marked by extremes in weather for various areas. We won’t know the final look of that change for decades to come.

    The interesting thing here is that global warming might, in effect, lead to a new ice age.

    It is highly annoying to me when the terms “climate change” and “global warming” are used as if the mean the same thing, when clearly, anyone that has actually learned what the terms are, knows one is a cause and one is the effect.

    • Rick Goodrich says:

      Thank you for your comment… It drives me crazy that all the deniers have zero knowledge of the thing they oppose… The Fox News Cult has really done a great job turning idiots into human parrots.

    • Spacewarp says:

      I did the climate change and global warming as interchangeable to show that the “scientists” who are leading this charge started screaming from the tops of the roofs that Global Warming was happening, and that we would have all sorts of problems. Then, when it didn’t show the results they were claiming, because they don’t understand the complex system we have as an environment and climate, they had to change their claims to be Climate Change because they couldn’t continue the lie of Global Warming. It wasn’t existing. So, there was a long set of changes. So, to be specific, it was a dogmatic belief that humans must be to blame for our world changing, even though we know for a fact that it’s been hotter than it is today, by a significant amount, and it’s been colder. Our CLIMATE CHANGES. Of course it does. Sheesh.

      • Taymie says:

        I spent a lot of time writing a big response and realized that you wouldn’t understand it anyway.

        Yes our climate changes. that is part of our planets processes.

        does not mean we aren’t rushing into a new Ice Age or a new Warm Age. Nor does it mean we haven’t participated in activities that hastened that change.

        • Spacewarp says:

          That’s pretty arrogant of you. So far only one person on your side has bothered to attempt to try to discuss the facts with me. I have been very specific and have had little effort put forward to dispute any of it or respond to the links I posted. Please do try to discuss with facts and not with insults.

          • Taymie says:

            No your response again does you don’t know the terminology

            You tried to make it seem as if global warming was flawed based on the use of the phrase climate change.

            Global warming is real and you are just too stupid to know the difference between warming the surface of the earth and changing the temperature of the air.

          • Spacewarp says:

            Wow. Only 5 months to come up with “you don’t agree with me, so you are stupid.” I guess after 5 months of researching, you can’t refute anything that was said to attack your religion, so you resort to name calling.

  • ThisGuy says:

    And Obama did it all without Congress… Oh, wait….

  • Kirk welch says:

    “It’s progressives that hate the truth, that’s why they freak out and
    resort to petty insults and accusations whenever they’re told something
    they don’t want to believe”

    “You liberals are some pretty sick people”. Now as to who is hurling insults?
    You folks are truly a mystery to me. You claim we’re draining your pockets dry with Liberal Policy but you haven’t had a cost of living increase in 10 Yrs..So your OK with working more hrs for the same money?
    You don’t like the ACA, you’d rather take your kids or yourself to the emergency room and then stiff the hospital with the bill. All this while you preach personal responsibility. Isn’t it responsible to make sure you and your kids are insured so that the rest of us don’t have to pay for your medical treatment? should we do away with mandatory Auto Insurance so that if someone smashes you car up and puts yo in the Hospital they can walk away from any financial obligation to you scott free?
    You hate any attempt to conserve national parks and forests or make sure Oil and Natural Gas Companies don’t contaminate out water and air but you call yourself hunters and love the outdoors. I suppose you’d be fine paying for water what you pay for gas? You’ve undoubtedly seen footage of entire towns that were abandoned because of Oil spills and toxic dumps into they’re water but yet it’s just the cost of doing business,
    You are hugely supportive of Citizens United, never mind the fact that that law allows the very people you despise to buy political offices., who then pass laws that are not in your best interest.
    You belive that every illegal immigrant should be deported but have no clue about how that would adversly affect our economy, in fact if Obama were to do that you’d want his head on a spike for destroying the economy, you have no clue how many sh*t jobs those people do for minimum wage that white kids wouldn’t do for any amount of money and white men for that matter. From farming to meat packing to restaurants to lawn care to roofing and on and on. You don’t even realize that if those people are working they are paying in taxes and will never file a tax return and no they are not allowed to accept SNAP, they won’t even apply for fear of being arrested.
    You folks live in a fantasy world that isn’t accepting of anything that isn’t exactly like you. You would have our schools become religious indoctrination camps for our kids, you would establish a National religion and persecute anyone that didn’t follow suit, sounds like revelations to me!Like it or not and I know you don’t, time stands still for no one and your kind are on the way out, just not fast enough IMO.
    If you don’t like Liberal ideas or the liberal agenda why are you here? do you not work? Nothing better to do with your time? No social life? What?
    I don’t know you and don’t want to so I won’t make assumptions but I do picture a man that has allowed life to pass him by because of his dogmatic and unfaltering views on politics, religion and life in general. We all know misery loves company but you won’t find that companionship here. Might i suggest a Conservative Fundamentalist Dating Site? Maybe you can hook up with one of the Palin girls!

    .

  • pdderek says:

    They got paid by the opposite interest groups according to your view of science. Why believe ANYTHING?

  • pdderek says:

    Lots of architects and engineers want a new 9/11 investigation. Do you respect their view? Or only the scientists who support YOUR “fact”?

    Every other post of yours screams confirmation bias.

  • pdderek says:

    Both parties are screwing Americans quite obviously. But you two factions will never realize it because you’re so mad at each other.

    Shut up all of you. You sound like children squabbling

  • Tom Penrod says:

    At least we don’t beat our wives and children like conservatives do.

  • Chief1719 says:

    This is one stupid uncle you are trying to argue with. And you will look even dumber for trying to use this to look intelligent.

  • David Braun says:

    If the labor participation rate was the same as it was in the Bush years (66% vs 62% now) we would still have an unemployment rate near 10%. We still have too many college grads working as waiters , workers getting only part time work, and people accepting part time work to not have to pay for Obamacare. If we had a problem solver in the White House instead of a professional demonstration organizer it wouldn’t have to take 6 years to see some improvement in the economy!

  • smoochie says:

    Ha. Ha. Ha. Cons live their whole lives in denial of reality and choose beliefs like salad toppings. Give me a large break, please.

  • Spacewarp says:

    I wrote a rather thoughtful response to a painfully factually devoid article posted. I said if you can respond without insults, feel free to comment and actually debate the facts. So far, you don’t have any clue as to how to respond, so you claim I’m a robot. Good to know you can’t support your arguments without name calling.

  • Larry Dickman says:

    It appears you are too stupid to read the links next to each point this article made and the rebuttals. It also appears you enjoy welfare and have the belief of the typical Liberal that government is the answer to your problems. It is not.

  • Supreme Hegemon JD says:

    Hey it’s MetaKnight the Well known fox spewing troll. Paid to troll
    libs&dems by the the superpac
    he works for. The
    page is called 10 (facts) that will drive your (fox spewing) relatives crazy.
    What are the odds of us meeting again? Or the odds of you posting the same (You liberals hate facts so you have no right to
    complain.) post that you posted on my twitter when I posted articles on the 47 traitors. What actual
    conservative would go to an openly Liberal website just to argue with Liberals?
    This has been #OpFoxCatcher

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