Donald Trump is proving to be a complete disaster of a presidential candidate. But as bad as he is, the surrogates he has put out to represent the campaign are worse. And the worst of the worst, without question, has to be Katrina Pierson. Her comments when interviewed range from ridiculous to incoherent. Despite it all, somehow she still has a job.
Pierson appeared on CNN again on August 13, where her failure to recall history was on full display as she explained to New Day host Victor Blackwell that President Obama was responsible for invading Afghanistan.
The conversation starts with a discussion about Trump’s remark that if he loses Pennsylvania it will be because Democrats cheated. Blackwell soon turns from that topic to the GOP nominee’s other comment that has sparked a firestorm in recent days — that Barack Obama is the founder of ISIS, and Trump’s claim that he was being “sarcastic, but not that sarcastic” when he made the statement.
After saying that of course Trump knows the president didn’t literally “found” ISIS, Pierson launches into an explanation of how the policies advanced by Obama and Clinton led to the rise of the group.
Blackwell explains the history of ISIS to Pierson:
But you know that ISIS actually started in 2004 with AQI — al Queda in Iraq, and then morphed into, in 2006, the Islamic State in Iraq. So this is not something that started during the Obama administration.
This is where Pierson goes off the rails, as she always does at some point. She starts talking about the troop “surge” in Iraq that occurred in 2007.
After the troop surge, al Queda was essentially in ashes. It was Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton who then destroyed the entire rollout by wanting to pull out early, announcing their plans, ignoring intelligence, and that is the reason ISIS is a global issue.
NPR fact-checked Pierson’s claims some nine months before she made them. As they reported in December 2015, President Bush was responsible for the Iraq withdrawal timetable, and even though ISIS did not yet exist under that name when the U.S. troops withdrew, its precursor did. But since when did facts ever stand in Katrina Pierson’s way? Wait, it gets better (or worse, depending on your perspective).
Blackwell asks Pierson if she was talking about 2006. She replies that no, she was talking about later, after the surge. Then she says this:
Remember we weren’t even in Afghanistan by this time. Barack Obama went into Afghanistan creating another problem.
Blackwell appears dumbfounded. “You’re saying Barack Obama took the country into Afghanistan post-2009. Is that what you’re saying?” he asks.
Pierson hesitates for just a moment, then says, “Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton — that was Obama’s war, yes.”
At that point, it was time for a commercial break. Blackwell asks Pierson to stick around for “another block.”
When they return from the break, Blackwell launches into a correction of the nonsense Pierson had just spouted. He points out that the U.S. went into Afghanistan when Bush was president, in 2001. Undaunted by facts, as usual, Pierson simply changes the conversation to claim she said something she didn’t say. “No,” she replies. “We’re talking about ISIS specifically.” Which, if you followed what was said before the break, doesn’t even make sense.
Blackwell counters, “But your statement was Barack Obama took us into Afghanistan; it was his war. It was President Bush who took the country into Afghanistan shortly after 9/11.”
A dazed and confused looking Pierson replies, “But I thought we were talking about the founding of ISIS.”
Does this woman even listen to what she says, or does she, like her master, simply talk for the sake of talking?
Watch Pierson blame the Afghan war on President Obama in the first video below, then watch Victor Blackwell school her on history in the second one.
Featured image via CNN screen capture