House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) appeared on “60 Minutes” to talk about various Republican ideas and plans. When host Scott Pelley pressed them for a Republican alternative to the Affordable Care Act (ACA), they both fell flat on their faces. They talked about what they hate about the program, but, as is typical of the GOP, they couldn’t talk about what they would do instead.
Boehner went first, saying that what Americans didn’t need was a Washington takeover of the healthcare system. He even speculated that Washington has hired tens of thousands of people for both the IRS and Department of Health and Human Services just to manage the thing (information on just how many people were hired at both the IRS and HHS for the ACA is hard to come by, however, a Reuters analysis found that the states hired tens of thousands of their own people to handle their end of things). Boehner said it’s time to look at this differently.
But when Pelley asked Boehner, again, what the Republican alternative to the ACA was, Boehner went lame, saying:
We’re working on this, having discussions amongst our members, we got a lot of divergent views about how best to go back to a doctor-patient relationship that’s revered. About rewarding medical professionals, as opposed to all those rules that are coming down and frankly, driving doctors out of the system.
Seriously? That’s it? It’s clear Boehner still can’t answer that question. When Pelley told Boehner and McConnell that one of the biggest criticisms of the GOP is that they’re fully capable of saying what they’re against, but not what they’re for, McConnell jumped in with:
Scott, with all due respect to you, you mischaracterize the likelihood of success with Obamacare. The Congressional Budget Office doesn’t work for Republicans or Democrats, run by a former Clinton staffer, said that best case scenario, Obamacare reduces the number of uninsured from 40 million to 30 million…And in the end, doesn’t get everybody covered in the first place. Now, that is not my view of how to improve the American healthcare delivery system. If we had the ability to do it, we ought to pull it out, root and branch, and start over.
In other words, Pelley nailed it when he said, point-blank, “You don’t have an alternative.” Because they don’t. Their “repeal and replace” mantra is missing one huge, important part: The replacement plan! All Boehner could do is ask why the states can’t run their own exchanges (Washington tried that, many states refused), and why we wouldn’t allow people to buy insurance across state lines.
Boehner also just had to trot out malpractice insurance as one of the major drivers of overpriced healthcare. The truth is that some states have already enacted the tort reform Republicans want, but, for instance, in Texas, their 2003 tort reform law failed to bring costs down, according to the Statesman. It even failed to slow down rising costs.
These are ideas, but Republicans can’t seem to put them together into a single, cohesive plan, present it to the American people, and explain what it will do. All Republicans have are disjointed statements, with little supporting evidence, that make no sense on their own, and could make even less sense when put into a real plan. Boehner and McConnell proved that Republicans can’t replace the ACA, because all they can do is say what they stand against.
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He hit that nail right on the head!! The GOP is all talk and NO action. The only plan they have is obstruct Obama at any price! The GOP elitist have a motto they live by…:I got mine, screw you !”
The problem is, MOST Republicans don’t HAVE “mine”, unless their definition of “mine” is a really really small amount. But keep dreaming and working hard, someday you too will become a tycoon.
My mom, typical of most is on Social Sec. and Medicaid and just rails about how the country can’t afford food stamps.
The country can’t afford 14 aircraft Carrier Battle groups causing trouble throughout the world.
Aaron I know my Mom is the same way, she doesn’t remember when I went for 30 yrs without healthcare and was working my butt off…I am now disabled which she blames on my arthritis instead of the fact I couldn’t see a dr for my health issues…SIGH!!! Thank God she doesn’t vote, she’d be cutting her own throat!!!
And the baby boomers just NOW noticed ‘obama’s’ horrible economy completly oblivious to the fact that most of us got laid off after being underemployed for 20 year and lost houses in 06 or 07. F’n obama!!!!
And you’re right re aca too. I’m 46 and haven’t had health ins since 1992. They’re already talking about cutting soc. Sec. Whats gonna happen when medicaid has to cover 4 generations of people since nixon that have undiagnosed advanced diseases as we age?
The Baby Boomers especially those born 1946-1950 are what cause the loss of the American dream.
The previous generation built this great country after the huge crash. The Boomers just reaped what they had done.
The world was told the streets were paved in gold the Boomers seen all the gold and tore it up and claimed it all for their own.
Since Boomers were in their 30s in the 80s making all the big bucks did not think to pay off debt nor pay it forward.
Boomers voted for their own tax cuts and self worth and greed.
the Boomers said to hell with posterity it is all about me and my greed this is the legacy those sold out hippies who turned into self absorbed Yuppies will leave a OLIGARCHY for the kiddies all for their self worth and greed.
This is what Boomers voted for since the 1980s and Orwell’s reality we are now living.
They All Sold Out….after doing so great things
They Refuse to Retire more like can’t…….since
They deregulated banks…..with the Gramm Leach Biley Act
They Created a Huge Debt……..thanks to cuts in REVENUE Taxes and deregulating the Capitalist class spent billions on the Military as the domestic had to suffer for the Jobs program we now have for the poor to be all that they can be part of the Military killing machine.
They Created the Obesity Epidemic….lazy fast food nation of fatties.
They Had it Way Easier Than Their Kids………
They Raised the Drinking Age to 21 yet were drunk and drugged all the time
They Run The Worst Congress of All Time and full of boomers today.
They Inherited a Great Middle Class and Eviscerated It……..for busted unions and all the heap Walmart crap they did not need.
They Supported a Pointless War After Living Through Vietnam SEE IRAQ
Then complain the kids are living in the basement because the only jobs out there are ones servicing the Queen and King boomers.
They Dismantled Education in America…..for corporate serfs and profits instead see student loans compared to what those boomers paid.
They Did Drugs But Won’t Let You Do Drugs……….they are still doing them just the ones the doctors hand out like candy
They Outsourced All YOUR Jobs……………to create a Chinese middle class.
Sure you are calling them by their real names? I think they re called Republicans!
WTF does Obama have to do with you or anyone losing jobs ? He came in when the economy was the worst since the depression, thanks to the policies of Bush, his farce of 2 wars, fighting for oil, banks, car industry, if anything he has put this country back together, how is it his fault ? If your boss ket you go it was because the economy was shit when he came in, what are you talking about ? And please get your news somewhere else and not on Fox news they are prejudicial on anything Obama does, he can do no right.
If you notice he had Obama in quotes because people are blaming him for things that happened before he came into office.
Face it, Obama could go into medicine, discover a cure for cancer and the Rethugs would say he put thousands of oncologists and cancer care worker out of work.
As an outsider, not being American, but having an interest in what is happening around the globe, I am appalled at people like Ghendrik, who appears to not know much outside his personal information bubble.
I am an Australian conservative, living under a conservative government that provides healthcare , education and a good safety net for all.
I watch all news services around the world, even Fox News, because everybody needs a laugh.
The US lags behind most western advanced countries in most categories because people appear to be too lazy to fact-check info provided by your lousy news media.
I am 72 yo and have seen a lot of the world, including, thanks to US paranoia, a stint in one of your wonderful military campaigns in South East Asia, where I lost good friends.
US thinking is skewed, your Congress is laughable and it also laughable that people lack the intellect to see it.
From my observation President Obama has tried to do many good things but is thwarted by the idiots in Congress and the Senate.
The US is ,I think, well on the way to recovery, and people like Bernie Sanders who talks about issues rather than who has got the biggest penis, is the way to go.
To all US citizens , you can’t complain if you don’t vote, so VOTE !!!
So what you’re saying, basically, is that you blame Obama for you being underemployed the past 20 years, and losing your house in 06 or 07 (even though he wasn’t inaugurated until 2009). Hmmm, seems legit!
Just out of curiosity, do you give him credit for everything that has gone right for you over that period of time, too?
You are being sarcastic about President Obama, right?
No insurance since ’92???? Seriously, take a look in the mirror about your career decisions OR about your life decisions that leave you without the ability to afford insurance or have a career that provides it. (just thought I’d give you a ‘taste’ of the “personal responsibility” lecturing the right likes to drift towards). Summation: you complain about health insurance but you don’t have the personal savvy to make sure this critical component of your life is available through personal preparation. I say… “deadbeat”.
Mr. Lynch, it wasn’t Mr. Obama who caused the financial meltdown, it was Bush and his cronies who started two wars and financed them with the middle class economies. Now you can at least get med coverage under the ACA (Obamacare) and if social security is cut, who’s watch will that be on?
George Bush was president in 06 and 07…not Obama.
You got to be joking blaming Obama for the economy tanking in 2008 and the housing crisis. At 46 with an education there’s plenty of opportunity with unemployment at a 20 year low.
Bonnie, I can sympathize. I didn’t go as long as you did without adequate healthcare, but I did go about 10 years without it. In this time, a lot of my own health issues may have been treated as soon as my symptoms arose. My own ex-husband had no health insurance and could have greatly benefited from a social program such as Obamacare. His mother relentlessly insulted Obama’s policies, especially the concept of Obamacare, while completely ignoring the fact that her own son, whom has a heart condition, really needed affordable healthcare. Some people just can’t see the forest through the trees.
Bonnie, i see you are smarter then your mom.
Your mother paid into Social Security and deserves every penny. It’s her money. If she had been allowed to invest that money privately rather than loaning it to a government who knows how to do nothing but tax and spend she would be much better off financially now.
Except that most people don’t know enough about investing to save for retirement. Working children used to take care of aging parents, and I don’t think any of us want to go back to that.
Too late. Do you realize how many children now have elderly parents living with them?
I don’t think he is begrudging his Mother her Social Security. I think he is pointing out that she complains about “other people” taking government money without realizing that she is also receiving monthly assistance.
I understand but although Medicare is public assistance Social Security is an earned benefit for those who work and pay in through to retirement.
Medicare is NOT public assistance. What most people don’t know is that more than $100 is taken out of every social security check every month for medicare insurance, no matter how small the social security payment is.
Actually, my Social Security benefits are paid for to the tune of 100+ dollars monthly; also paid by my wife. We feel the hundred is a great investment. Correction please: this is not Public Assistance, but an insurance program which was violently fought against by the rethuglicans in the sixties. Thanks to LBJ we seniors won. There are problems, but we’re better off with than without.
I believe I said that those who paid into Social Security their whole lives were now reaping a benefit they they themselves had paid for.
By a multiple of four times Plus. SS is broke!
Actually Social Security was put into place in the 30s by the Democrats and President Franklin D. Roosevelt. You are correct, the Republicans fought tooth and nail to keep it from happening, but everyone was afraid that they or their parents would die of exposure and starvation. Many senior citizens in our nation were in very dire straights. LBJ and the Democrats passed Medicare in the 60’s and again fought the Republicans tooth and nail to do that too.
FDR LIED about it and the SCOTUS said it was a Tax! , Just like Commie Care, that the peice of sh_t Obama said it wasn’t
Have you ever encountered an insurance policy that stayed in effect AFTER you stopped paying for it? No, her medicare (and I agree she deserves it, all seniors do) is not free. It is a service being paid for by the taxpayers. The government she so despises for giving money to people is giving money to her as well.
Deductions come out of your paycheck for Medicare. Plus, once you retire and start drawing SS you have to pay for your medicare also.
and? so what is the point? Paid in and paid out ARE two differenet things. People think they deserve more than they invested because some political dope said so.
I don’t think you really get it. If someone is paying for Medicare, how are they getting more than they invested. Social security was designed for people to be able to retire. You don’t pay in, you don’t get it. That is how it works.
Example, paid in 50,000, getting benefits of 100,000. Getting more than deserve, because of ENTITLEMENT mentality. get it
If you paid into social security you are entitled to it. You are receiving the money you paid into it. Also, most people will never receive twice the amount they have contributed. The amounts paid out to those who have met their required lifetime contributions is not that large of a sum. Also anyone born at least after 1971 is not eligible to receive full SS until the age of 73 thanks to changes in legibility laws. You just want to rant about something you consider “an entitlement” when it is something working people have contributed to over time.
Actually, she would be much worse off. The average Social Security recipient pays in a little over $100,000 to their retirement account and gets back a little over $300,000.
She would have had to time her retirement perfectly to match up with peaks and valleys of the stock market to maximize her return with private investments. So would also have lost part of her investment to management fees.
One good way to compare is to look at the return on their investment people get with their IRA’s, which they completely control.
Moreover, had she become disabled before she started collecting Social Security retirement, she could have collected for decades without ever paying in a penny.
So you’re saying your Mother isn’t mature enough to make her own decisions. Interesting.
DUFUSS … Maturity is NOT the question … most of the investment ( Money Managers ) make the same investment mistakes.
Age has nothing to do with intelligence or common sense. She — like many others in her position — have been so manipulated that they don’t even see their own hypocrisy.
If your point is to somehow belittle the poster for recognizing this about their own mother, you’re just proving their point. Ignorance and half-assed smear campaigns are the entire basis of their ideology in lieu of critical thinking; even if that means seeing the faults of your kin.
Not trying to smear anyone’s Mother.. The point I’m trying to make is that many people seem to find it more comforting for government to make all their decisions for them. From what to eat to what kind of work they do to how much and how they invest their own hard earned money. I just find it interesting that people believe government is a big, benevolent Uncle Sam Teddy Bear who only has their best interest at heart. They seem to believe all the pro government hype coming out of the government-media complex and yet those same people hate anyone who disagrees with them or has a different philosophy because the media has continually and perpetually mocked anyone who’s not a proponent of Socialism. It makes you wonder what happened to true liberals when you see the venom flung at anyone who challenges you beliefs and philosophy. The leftist/socialist are less tolerant of conservatives than they are of militant Islamists. It’s perplexing and amazing.
Guess what. Social Security is a better choice than the Stock Market. The Stock Market is rigged against everyone who isn’t part of it.
conservatives and militant Islamists are cut from the same bolt of cloth—agree with me or you die, Infidel!
Funny. So are you a conservative or a militant Islamist?
Neither. What are you,Masmani?
Then why threaten death?
Not when she’s 18 and has to make decisions about to start investing.
Actually, as it is now, there is a whole profession of people who make investment people for others-mutual fund managers.
The reason that profession exists is that making those decisions is a specialized skill.
It’s challenging enough for a mid-career person to direct his or her own investment choices.
So instead of paying someone a small fee to help you with those decisions it’s better to give a huge percentage to Uncle Sam for holding your hand?
Remember, we tried it the other way before the 1930’s and it didn’t work so well.
Do you really think 100% of the people who collect Social Security would be better of if we said to 18, 28, 38 year olds “You must defer spending now and put it in a risk-based investment from which someone will profit today so 30-40-50 years from now you will have old age security.”
And if the answer is that a number less than 100% will benefit, what percentage of destitute old people are you willing to accept in society?
I don’t think ANY system is 100% correct all the time but anything government can do private entrepreneurs can do better and for less money .
That’s a common meme, but the facts don’t bear it out.
Why don’t we have privatized fire departments?
You could make it mandatory but why does it have to go to the government. It had been proven repeatedly government is the most inefficient vehicle for funds.
Really?That would come as a big shock to the administrators of Medicare with their 2% overhead.||
One of the provisions of Obamacare that went into effect was a rule prohibiting insurance companies frfom spending MORE than 20% of policyholders’ premiums on overhead.
Can you believe that a rule like this was even necessary and that companies chaffed on being CAPPED, as they are today at 20%.
So much for the efficiency of the private sector.
Why do you suppose private industry wasn’t already providing the coverage in the first place if efficiently produced private profits were to be made?
Repeatedly shown by whom? I’d like to see who in the private sector can provide the kind of coverage Social Security provides for what people pay.
The first thing we’d have to do if Social Security retirement were run like a
“real” business is start raising premiums and/or the retirement age regularly to have it reflect ever-growing life expectancy.
After all, when they set 65 as the retirement age in the mid-1930’s, not nearly so many people lived to that age and many more went into the workforce earlier than they do now, so when it started, people paid in longer and collected shorter.
Oh come on Masmani, it has nothing to do with “maturity”. It takes some financial acumen and an understanding of the stock market (which most laymen don’t have!) to do well “playing the market.” Why do you think it is called “playing the market”? It’s GAMBLING with your money - you’re betting that the stocks and other options you have purchased will do well long-term. It’s not quite as bad a Vegas odds, but certainly not secure like pensions used to be. An employer put money into an ACCOUNT, usually interest-bearing. That money wasn’t put into speculative accounts.
Do you really feel the money is safe in social Security when the government keeps stealing from it?
Yes I do, honestly. It’s much easier to make “the government” accountable than it is account managers, brokers and the entirety of the stock market.
Yes, since the government and other entities that theSoc Security fund loans money to are borrowing and will/must pay back what they borrowed. The money doesn’t get stuck into a shoe box somewhere like a kid’s piggy bank. It works.
Kind of funny you mention that, seeing as how you are lecturing everybody about our mothers’ finances and all…
No Republican is mature enough to make their own decisions. Voting Republican is like shitting your pants.
Are they actually charging you to sniff his throne or do you get to do that for contributing to his offshore campaign fund?
She certainly wasn’t sophisticated enough in 1939 when she started working as a secretary to make decisions about a retirement plan than would meet her needs until she died in 2010 at age 89.
I’m sorry for your loss.
Look up “social security+poverty”
Tax and spend is more fiscally responsible than borrow and waste . . .
Especially when spent on infrastructure construction which multiplies the $ when spent by the workers.
Really, the GOP use the BORROW and GAMBLE economic model . . .
RIGHT ? … she would have lost it all or be left with less thru the Wall Street Fiasco
Aaron, don’t you ever believe the part about privatizing SS.
I know, I’m now 78 and thankful that my government thinks enough of me to give me Social Security monthly. Of course that was started by Democrat FDR.
Me, too
Oh really? Our 401ks, the “replacements” for real honest pensions, were invested privately. After the 2007 crash, the value of MY 401k (remember, invested privately) LOST $60,000! So, again, HOW much better off financially am I since my 401k last $60,000 and only recouped about $20,000 of it??
How long did you have the 401K before it crashed?
For at least 20 years. As soon as all the corporations jumped on the 401K bandwagon in the 1980s, the law firms for which I had worked stopped offering “retirement plans” and switched all of us to the 401Ks. And until the last couple of years before the crash, the firm’s “administrators” took care of how the monies I paid in and the firm paid in were invested; then to supposedly save money, they decided that all of us, whether we knew anything about the stock market or not, had to administer our own accounts - we could either take total control, or choose from a Chinese menu of plans - “slow and safe” all the way up to “quick and highly speculative”. I always tried to be conservative because I knew I didn’t know very much about stocks and investing.
So I’ll bet you had a hell of a lot more than the $40K you lost. Are you better off or worse off than your friend who depend on the government?
I lost approx. $60,000 and recouped only about $20,00; which actually left me with about $75,000 all together. I was “downsized” in 2010. I was able to collect a year of unemployment, while I tried to find something else. Yes, I’ll admit to the first couple of months not pounding the pavement frantically because, after 30 years of working full time, and having so much pressure at work BEFORE they finally downsized my position, I felt I needed a bit of a break. So, a couple of months into being on the unemployment, I started to look again. The economy still “sucked” honestly, and I couldn’t find anything in my field. So, long story short, I ended up taking payments early from the 401K because, how else was I supposed to get by? I was the sole breadwinner for much of the time I worked, and so there wasn’t really a lot of “savings”. End result, by the time I found even part-time work, much of that 401K was already drained. It has been 5 long years since my downsizing - and work has been difficult to find - most of it is part-time, and most of it is for a DRASTICALLY reduced salary. So, honestly? No. I am not better off than my friends who depend on the government. They, at least, get a set amount each month. They know what they are going to get and they budget accordingly. The “contract” nature of how I seem to have to work today, does not give me that consistency.
Unlikely… Chances are she would have lost everything especially if she invested it. Remember the billions people lost when the market crashed? With SocSec she was pretty well guaranteed benefits even if those benefits aren’t that great. Do you know how many people lost everything when GM crashed? Both 401k’s and pensions were obliterated. Some were lucky but most saw their investments nearly wiped out.
GM investors were rolled by the 0bama Administration takeover putting the government ahead of creditors instead of the other way around. Do a little research on it. The little guys were jumped ugly by Washington. It’s an old story I get tired of hearing. I’m not sure why leftists seem to think the government is their buddy.
I’m not sure how you took “government is their buddy” from my comment?! Maybe you should get your eyes checked because what I said was if she had invested she most likely would have lost significantly. Nowhere did I mention the government is our buddy. Also when I said “Both 401k’s and pensions were obliterated. Some were lucky but most saw their investments nearly wiped out” I wasn’t referring to GM alone. I was referring to 401ks and pensions across the board.
…or she could be broke….because there’s no guarantee in investing in the stock market.
Who say’s it has to be the stock market. Have you never heard of US Saving Bonds, Municipal Bonds? You know, government investments. Are you not aware of anything but the stock market?
You are 100% right on the money there Aaron. Over 700 billion a year spent on defense spending and the Republicans only solution is to cut school lunch programs, Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, education programs and welfare programs because it’s just too expensive. The US spends more money on defense spending than all the other countries in the world combined.
The reason the Republicans don’t want to cut defense spending is because they are money whores reaping the rewards of being bed fellows with companies like Haliburton. Wake up. Smell the coffee and pull the Republican penis from betwixt your buttocks.
Hate to bust your woefully uninformed bubble Aaron, but the US Navy currently only has 11 carriers total; which surprisingly, is what Congress has mandated they have to support national goals.
Quite the opposite of “Carrier Battle groups causing trouble throughout the world.”, they typically lend a great deal of stability wherever they’re deployed to; at least around responsible/reasonable governments.
Finally, which side of your mouth do you want to speak out of? You whine that “The country can’t afford 14 aircraft Carrier Battle groups”, yet you’re more than willing to send them off to play global police officer and bring Boko Haram back in line. I guess that’s much easier when you never have, or will, serve your country; just enjoying the freedoms that our service have permitted and preserved for you.
You’re welcome.
“Only” 11 aircraft carriers, Paul Duer? How many do you think will be enough so you feel safe?
As many as the government decides we need. Go Navy. Instead of bitching about carriers, why don’t you bitch about the tanks that keep getting ordered that the Army keeps telling Congress it doesn’t want or need.
Aircraft Carriers - wonders of modern engineering!
Have any idea how many billion of dollars it takes to man, maintain and supply ONE for a year?
Some people talk about the USA losing it’s military edge, the fact is no other country or region (eg EU) even come close to the Arms and technology war machine that the USA have developed . . . .
People who wants billions to be spent on arms don’t care about Social Security, Medicaid or Affordable Health Care . . .
It is somewhat of a generational issue. Not all baby boomers feel this way; my parents don’t. They are strong advocates of Obamacare and other social programs that help the general populace. However, it does seem like the majority of baby boomers don’t see things the same way as my parents. If nothing else, we can hope for a future where the people of America strive to bring up the lower class through social programs such as Obamacare, food stamps, and more. I certainly won’t stop trying to reach people who have bad opinions of these programs, and I won’t stop hoping for a better tomorrow.
Aaron, your mom is typical of the middle class brain washed base who do not realize the Rethuglicans want to distroy and dismantle Social Security and Medicare.
What Reagan told them anyway.
“I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it. If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” LBJ
Those are the ones that are called, “republifakes”! They run their mouths about everything and at the same time they are taking advantage of every social program you can imagine. Just wave your bible, wave your little flag, point out constantly how “immoral” everyone else is and it all seems to justify itself.
RIGHT !! Just look at the $ in farm supports taken by the family farm owned by the Castrator In Charge ( Jodi Ernst ) who spoke gibberish for the Repub. response to the State of the Union
This is also true. The republicans have successfully demonized Government completely. Poor republican voters believe that cooperative legislating is sinful and that compromise across the aisle is something that just can’t happen. They are frequently fixed, low income older Americans who regularly vote against their own self interests for candidates who want to cut Social Security, Medicare, and many other programs that they benefit from. This is sad.
The Rethuglicans are very good at brain washing their middle class base.
I could only wish they would obstruct the lawlewss pos in the white house all of the time. Obummer gets away with far too much crap. #1 WORST president EVER by far.
Sorry, that honor goes to Bush
10 Trillion in debt in 6 years, losing Iraq, Afghan, to the Islamo Nazi’s, every foreign policy is insane, All our allies (now former) don’t trust Obummere. Bush wasn’t a narcisstic pathological liar like Obummer is. Marxism isn’t the way to go
You really are a racist little bitch!
You really are a racist little bitch!
So you are a racist if you disagree with the Marxist ??? You MUST be a racist becuase you voted for Obama because of his skin color. So YOU are the racist,!
Are you talking about the democrat billionaires and millionaires who put Obummer in power and are using him to make billions more?
If you look at boehnner’s tie it seems their responses are fishy and they are crabby when asked the question.
I hope all you assholes who voted for these pricks get yours 10 fold. You deserve it. The poor have a lot less to loose, remember that.
And pitchforks are cheap
Pitchforks are cheap specially compared tanks, aircraft the Army doesn’t want, and assorted battle ships.
Got plenty of those things, and still no plan for replacing the ACA.
Sure tells anyone with sense whose side the GOP is on.
Something for the people is better than nothing for the people, but Republicans would rather you had nothing, because you’re probably not a Republican anyway, so why should they care? These asswipes offer nothing, they just want to deny Obama any semblance of a victory in providing healthcare for millions of AMERICANS.
Yeah. “It ONLY helped 10,000,000 formerly uninsured Americans instead of ALL of them, so we would rather have those 10,000,000 go back to being uninsured while we restore the sanctity of the doctor/patient relationship. We will get back to you when we come up with an idea.”
Cogent analysis. And when they were asked to present their own alternative, because Americans think they don’t have one, they immediately went back to spouting negatives about ACA.
Yes that is how the SELF ABSORBED think…………what is in it for me as a American
How about not getting sick when you go in public from some nasty thing like say EBOLA
Oh yes, because we ALL make a decision to go out and get sick deliberately. Right, dsadlowski….??? And just how many Ebola cases did we have here in the US?
We had enough cases that it could have become a serious problem if not for the stellar work of doctors.
Will the Repubs be happy going back to the days that doctors would take a chicken for payment from poor people and their answer today for a safety net for the poor is ” Let the churches provide “.
You mean back when HIGH TECH medicine involved bleeding with leeches?
Just what America needs. A spineless drunk, with a speech impediment, trying to “Pull the plug on Granmaw.” Only this time, it’s for real!!!
Malpractice insurance isn’t high because of frivolous lawsuits. It’s high because insurance companies invested their premium payment dollars in junk bonds, lost an ass load of $$, and recouped their losses on the backs of hard working medical professionals. The stock market improved, but the insurance companies never lowered their rates BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE TO. The insurance industry is essentially unregulated and can charge whatever the f*** they want to charge, THAT’S what your “free market economics” gets you.
You need to look into where the premium dollars are invested. Your narrative is incorrect.
The management costs skyrocketed, not the actual medical expenses r malpractice. . .ACA attempts to rein that in by making sure 80% of premiums go to actual health care. . .
Health plan administration: Insurers make annual changes to the prices of their plans to factor in their own cost of doing business.
For example, insurers may set higher premiums and deductibles if the volume of insurance reimbursements they paid out in the prior year was more than they had expected.
They set higher premiums so that Wall Street can see that their profits are growing exponentially. Period.
Add on to that the fact that people become doctors now days without really caring about what they are doing and look at it as their way to riches. If doctors spent more time and care taking care of their duties, there wouldn’t be as many malpractice suits filed. Also, the healthcare/insurance industries are set up to be abused. Look at the costs of supplies that are charged when insurance claims are filed. When my father was in the hospital before he passed, a 4 ft IV hose cost $55. That is absurd. The bad thing is everything is like that. Enjoy those $12 ibuprofen..
Don’t forget that the “insurance” companies can decide not to pay any claim, any time. Add that to the extortion of premium increases and it makes a single payer health care system look very attractive to the average American.
So in other words, you got nothing.
So for six years they’ve been voting to repeal the Affordable Care Act and they have no clue of how to replace it. Many of the thing Boehner mentioned are part of the ACA. I supposed it might be a lot to expect him to read the act he wants to repeal; he’s probably a little too busy. Why is it the Republicans can’t stay on topic. Let’s see, Scott mentioned healthcare…oh, and what about medical malpractice. Let’s pass some laws that say doctors can’t be held accountable. Surely that will help.
They have NO alternative to the A.C.A… Never have, never will. Two of the biggest liars on the beltway right there folks. I hate those bastards.
Especially since quite a bit of the ACA is based upon their darling “Mitt’s” program to begin with! If Romney had won and pushed for “his” plan, they would have all loved it.
No, they do have a replacement plan. Making healthcare costs even higher to “reward medical professionals.” The modern GOP doesn’t care at all about American citizens. They care about rich people.
Then why did these jerks get re-elected and even more of their kind? All Democrats better get of their butts in 2016 and VOTE…this is what you get when you don’t, very disturbing, we deserve better than this!
They got re-elected by scaring people about ISIS and Ebola.
AND Gerrymandering voting districts.
Because poor white trash is easy to manipulate.
If they want to help medical professionals AND the uninsured … Make Medical School free for those that sign up for 5 years of low pay ACA service.
That makes far too much sense for the GOP.
Makes you wonder what these guys do on a daily basis. they’ve had years to come up with some alternatives, whether they plan to enact them or not. And they say the same tired things they’ve been saying for six years. Doesn’t look like we the people, who pay their salaries, are getting our money’s worth. This should make any ” fiscally conservative” Republican really angry.
Well from Boehner’s ever present orangish-red complexion I would say he tans too much and drinks bourbon all day.
They’re only promoting what their corporate overlords want. Alternatives aren’t a part of the GOP agenda on any program or position they are opposed to. They obviously aren’t working for their constituents as they aren’t following any of the polls on the popularity of the program.
Nice to see a journalist at least make an effort to call them out, but in the end Pelley caved and let them spew their same talking points without challenging them
RIKA CHRISTENSEN HAS SUFFERED FROM A MENTAL DISORDER CALLED LIBERALISM.
- LYING TO EVERYONE, AND THE LEFTIST COMMIE MEDIA LETTING THEM GET AWAY WITH IT, JON GRUBER IS OK TELLING OBUMMER HOW TO LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
Go back under your bridge troll.
And learn how to type without your “All Caps” button. Unless you MEAN (see what I did there? That’s called “emphasis capitalization”) to shout your foolishness…. My Dad used to have a label for loud people who say nothing - “Empty Kegs”.
So in Boehners own words, the ACA has created tens of thousands of jobs!
By Doctor/Patient they mean Doctor told what to say by government if they are talking about smoking, drinking, guns in the house, abortion, and birth control Patient relationship.
Where is this LAW ( and the specific consequences for not following it ) that says all of that , especially ” guns in the house ” ? Your opinion or do you have the facts?
The plan they have is get sick die quickly or bankrupt families.
We are a sick nation and need healthcare to think making profits off sick people is right and just we are sick and need mental care.
These two clowns are big on rhetoric and short on substance, speaking in generalities, especially that orange, lip licking Boehner, travesty at best and an insult to the public but the people sit, do not vote and fail to take their government back but allow for these jerks to give the wealth and government to the one percent. Now, incredible as it might seem, the one percent control fifty percent of the wealth of the world. One percent have that much leverage on the wealth of the world. The oligarchs have now accomplished dominion over the rest of you blind people. How pathetic for the future of America.
Boehnner is a useless old bag of dead skin.
“We’re working on this, having discussions amongst our members, we got a lot of divergent views about how best to go back to a doctor-patient relationship that’s revered. About rewarding medical professionals, as opposed to all those rules that are coming down and frankly, driving doctors out of the system.”
Who wrote this word salad? Sarah Palin?
No … the same Repubs who demanded that we save the Med. Insurance industry to even allow the vote on ACA and also save their ass by not letting people buy Ins. across state lines for better pricing. We all know that Medicare is stable on the small premium taken from the Soc. Security. check and we should have passed Medicare for all.
As useless as these two are if they do NOTHING but block this Muslim Communist who spreads around just as much bovine feces as he does other people’s money they have done a good job!
Yes they’re called obstructionist who want to take away everyone’s chance to buy healthcare… the working poor which I was a member of for over 30 yrs not allowed to buy insurance because of birth defects (I had arthritis and a heart valve issue (which now the docs fix right away) so when I went to work I was denied still had to go to a doc (cost $60 the last visit and meds $50 a bottle for insulin) I developed diabetes which now is linked to my kind of heart valve issue and arthritis which docs are saying is an auto immune disease…I wasn’t even 30 yrs old when hit with the news my heart had gotten worse (dyastolic dysfunction my heart doesn’t relax between beats so it doesn’t pump enough blood) but I still worked another 12 yrs like that…If I was allowed to buy insurance I would most likely still be working but at 52 I’m waiting on operation after operation to fix the problems that should have been fixed…but no insurance meant I could see a GP and not specialists (I had 3 kids to raise and 3 jobs to go with them) ex-hubby took off after baby 3 was 4 months old…no child support since he was on SSI while I worked 3 jobs with a crappy heart etc…etc…
Bonnie, No one doesn’t want you to have health insurance. My Glaucoma drops went from an $8.00 co-pay to a $87.00 copay because of 0bamacare. There are work arounds to the issues but forcing every man to have a policy that provides me with free birth control, pre-natal care, free abortions is not only a waste of time but a theft. I wish you only the best with your health!
Get pissed at the insurance companies or pharmaceutical companies , healthcare cost in the US is out of control way before the afordable care act.
Masmani you have always paid for them, when you are insured it pays for the person’s whole health, women are notoriously charged more because of sexual health…but they also have been paying for prostrate exams and viagra, but no one paid attention until it was told that people were paying for unpopular things…I had to be admitted several times to the hospital which I paid a huge sum for (thank God a charity stepped in to pay the bulk, leaving me with a much smaller bill but still a hardship) but the hospital let me pay on it over time…but I know a lot of people have never paid the bills and declared bankruptcy which falls on who to pay…the insured at least they are covered for the most part and the number has declined significantly the premiums went up over unpaid bills, hospitals were sticking it to the insured and who ultimately paid the insured…I know it sucks to have a vicious cycle but that is how some families did it because of no insurance it would be fairer if the breaks were spread out so all got some of the breaks…And I wish you well too
How did Obamacare raise your copays? What kind of insurance did you have before ACA and why do you not still have it? I have exactly the same insurance I had before ACA because my employer chose not to change it. Its very good insurance with a reasonable deductible and small copays. There is nothing in the ACA that makes an employer change the insurance that they offer employees unless that coverage is sub-standard.
Substandard? You mean as a middle aged male a policy which doesn’t give me free birth control, pre-natal care and abortion coverage? No, I don’t think BCBS is offering any “substandard” plans. Are you really being so obfuscatory that you’re going to make me expound and verify the overwhelming and highly documented truth that 0bamacare is costing us all dearly? There’s nothing in the ACA that says they have to raise fees. It’s called basic math.
Masmani, you been listening to Rush (Mr. Family Values) Limbaugh? Where is the proof (fact) that makes Barak Obama a Muslim? Where is the proof (fact) that makes Barak Obama a Communist? You regurgitate the wing-nut talking points, which have NO merit, NO proof, and NO factual basis. They just “believe” those things to be true. Can I see YOUR birth certificate, because given your name, I “believe” you are probably one of those “Muslims” yourself! And even AFTER I see your birth certificate, I STILL won’t “believe” it to be true - after all, you could have photoshopped it, right? Not the brightest crayon in the pack, are you Masmani??
You are a dumbass.
You need to stop throne sniffing. Rainbow flatulence obviously has an intoxicating effect on you.
You are one of the most under educated bigots on this site. It has been repeatedly proven that the POTUS is not muslim. Secondly, although you may not like him, you should have good enough sense to show the office and the person holding it some respect. He chose to try and help this country while you chose to sit back and shove cheese balls in your large orifice whilst scratching your balls
Geez, DeWayne. Maybe you could provide me with the “proof” the president is not a Muslim. From his actions he is at least a Muslim sympathizer. Makes sense doesn’t it? His father was a Muslim, his step father was a Muslim and his sister is a Muslim. Are you saying he has no sympathy for the religion of his family? And as you assessment of my actions as opposed to the preezy’s it must turn you on to think about my balls.
He wasn’t raised Muslim as he was raised by his mother. He attends a non Muslim church. Do you not remember the big deal the press made about comments from his pastor a few years ago? Or is it more convenient to forget facts to try and support your opinions? As for your balls, I merely commented that you have nothing better to do than sit around and scratch yours. It merely seems you simply suffer from Presidential envy.
He was not raised Muslim. He was raised Christian by his mother and grandparents. Do you not remember his pastor being in the news for making inappropriate comments a few years ago? Or do you simply choose to omit facts that are counter productive to your opinions? As far as your balls go, I simply said you have nothing better to do than sit around and scratch them. But it sounds like you are starting to come to terms with your LGBT side as you want to turn another guy on with your balls. Be careful, they may revoke your Tea Party membership when they find out you simply want to be tea-bagged.
Obamacare *WAS* the GOP’s alternative to health care.
They introduced it in 1993 as Senate Bill S. 1770. Republican Senator John Chafee sponsored it, Bob Dole co-sponsored it, as well as seventeen other Republicans and only two Democrats.
Did it have an insurance mandate? Ask Don Nickles (R-OK): “We do have an individual mandate. We do say everybody in America has to provide
insurance for themselves.”
The only time they opposed it was when Obama was for it.
The ability to lie unchallenged by the interviewer is a gift from God for the GOP
“We got a lot of divergent views about how best to go back to a doctor-patient relationship that’s revered.”
The only people who have revered doctor-patient relationships are those who pay their medical bills out of their own pockets. Anyone who pays for their health care with insurance is always subject to the terms and conditions of their policies.
Moreover, the 2/3 of insured Americans that have health insurance through their employer have those terms negotiated between their employer and the insurance company and have no say in those terms.
To make it even more removed from the patient, the majority of that 2/3 works for employers which are self-insured, the insurance company just administering the plan, so the company pays when, how, and for what it damned well chooses and the patent has zip to say about it.
But what the heck. The GOP thinks Mitt Romeny is the model for the American family and American workers.
You have to feel sorry for the Grand Old White Tea Party sometimes. They abhor science, math, history, logic, reasoning, and critical thinking. The ACA was mostly modeled off the GOP’s own plans for reforming health insurance. It was a boon to private insurance companies. If Obama was a socialist, wouldn’t the ACA include a single payer universal option?
So…they have no plan.
That or it’s like when Mitt Romney ran for President. If they honestly told what they would like to do, then the voters would hand Congress back to the Democrats.
One thing thing that Boehner actually proposed as an Obamacare
“alternative” was to “allow people to buy insurance across state
lines.” This is a GOP oldie but goodie.
Let’s look at what that actually means. Republicans pay lip service to the notion
that we are a Nation of States. They believe in States rights, the 10th
Amendment, the idea that States are laboratories of democracy, that various
States can come up with ideas that work in the particular state and try it out
and see what works best. In fact, one of the complaints against Obamacare is
that Washington should not enact a “one size fits all” rule; rather
each State should decide for itself what rules govern insurance in their State.
For those reasons, insurance has traditionally been left to the States to make
the rules and regulations. To sell insurance in State X, the company must be
licensed in State X and the policies sold in State X are subject to the laws
enacted by the legislature of State X as enforced by the State X insurance
commission or similar agency.
Yet a GOP “alternative” to Obamacare is to allow people to purchase
insurance across state lines.
What that actually means is that the health insurance industry will decide
which state is the most pro-business and then they will proceed to buy the
Governor and Legislature of that state. Thereafter, virtually all health
insurance policies will be sold from that state, and that state alone
This is not mere speculation. The same thing happened with credit cards. When the
GOP changed the rules, most large national banks chartered a subsidiary in
South Dakota, which allows banks to charge interest rates mafia loan sharks
would find embarrassingly high. Thus most credit cards are now issued by a
South Dakota company.
If Congress allows interstate sale of health insurance, assuming SD is
able to lure the health insurance companies like they did credit cards, all
health insurance policies will be governed by SD law. If you have a dispute
with your insurer, you can appeal to the SD insurance commission and attend a
hearing in Pierre, SD. But the appeal will likely be unsuccessful, because SD
law will give the insurer carte blanche. Of course, you can lobby the SD
legislature to change the law. Good luck!
Nice liberal media spin job! OUR republiscum plan is today, exactly what it has always been. Since many of you are MSNBC viewers and are too stupid to remember it, I’ll repeat it one more FINAL time. The top 5% GET FREE health care and/or are eligible for plans that everyone else gets exclude from. The TAX EXEMPT religious parasites get FREE HEALTH CARE! Those at the top of the military fraud machine get FREE HEALTH CARE and, you might not want to hear this, also free monthly mortgage stipend checks! The rest of ? Well you can all eat shlt!
Now, ya got it?
what a bunch of Malarky he asked point blank what is the GOP replacement or alternative and all he had was empty platitudes and feet-huffling. the Speaker and the House/Senate GOP have has SIX count ’em SIX YEARS to have discussions and find a so called different solutions and they have NOTHING, Zero, Zilch, Nada, Bupkis!
How can any sane person NOT view these two twiddle dee an twiddle dumbs as the idiots they are.
Boehner is a complete IDIOT! McConnell is not far behind. Neither one of these fools have a clue and represent why congress is so screwed up. They are both lip service specialists banging their gums together while saying absolutely nothing. ObamaCare is far from perfect but it’s miles ahead of where we were as a national healthcare resource. It’s just like the Republicans can’t stand for anyone to get something they are not. Speaking of which, the best way to reform congress, aside from term limitations, is to see that they have to use the same services they vote for. No special retirement for life - use Social Security like the rest of us. No special healthcare plan for life - use ObamaCare and Medicare. If those two changes came to pass there would no longer be issues with Social Security or Medicare. Put simply, Congress should be getting no special treatment just because they are a bureaucrat. They should be treated as they are, an American citizen - nothing more & nothing less.
So in the last 5 years they’ve come up with NOTHING? Surprise, Surprise!! You should at least have some kind of plan after 5 years of saying you’re going to repeal and replace something!!
Whatever they complain about with the ACA just tells me that neither one is actually able to read. But the voters elected these pieces of crap and deserve exactly what they get.
the only thing that humiliates a politician is handcuffs, and sometimes not even then…
I love this !! After hearing the GOP badmouthing and obstructing everything the President wishes to do to move this country forward is finally good to hear a reporter finally nail them and put them in the corner, they are all bitch and no bite.
He blames the system because everyone is not insured, which is something his party caused.
more proof jesus doesnt exist
Obama did want to consider ripping the system out by the roots - that was called Single Payer; cutting insurance companies out because they are not needed.
Obama did want tort reform to control lawsuits, but Republicans made that a no-starter as well.
Over 6 years with Obama — and Republicans have ZERO plans for healthcare.
Zero real plans for anything!
Boehner has a point about the mal-practice reform. Everything else is bogus. It’s been YEARS and he still doesn’t have a clue.
Good job on not answering the question Boner!
-I guess he missed the parts where states do have the option of running their own exchanges. Red states just to prefer to leave it to the feds so they have something to complain about.
-He wants people to buy from other states which falls under interstate commerce which is controlled by the federal government, so how would he deal with that “bureaucracy”?
-I’m all for malpractice reform, but why do you need to wipe the ACA to do it?
Boehner is still a BS specialist and an IDIOT. After years of defying Obama because he’s a) the President, b) a Democrat and/or c) black, Bonner (oops) is worthless and clueless. What a worthless POS (and welcome USA to the Republican nuclear meltdown when they must come up with a plan other than embarrass Obama). Lots o luck with that one
The problem is not Obama although he is part of it. The problem is that there are only two ways you can get elected into national offices (and stay): first is money whoring because elections are paid for by private donors for every candidate. Second one is being already rich and financing your candidacy yourself to a big degree. If the second is not possible, you will only get money from donors for giving them something in return.
your talking to Old Rich dinosaurs with ego’s….They don’t have an answer because they didn’t want to change anything…They can afford it so there was nothing wrong with it…They are invested in BIG PHARM. So it wasn’t broke….They want to get rid of it just to go back to the way it was….
Has anyone notice that there are two oranges speaking? Who would’ve known two fruits would “work” for our country?
Republicans have no plan for healthcare, they think it should just be left to the insurance companies. As far as the increase in the cost of healthcare. there are many factors, drug companies and their R and D and then finally getting a drug to market after FDA approval process, the lobbies of the doctors and nurses, especially the nurses to make it so you have to be a nurse to do things, the JCAHO whose concept started out as advising and recommending processes and practices that would improve outcomes - but has now become like a governing body and rights rules and it’s tied to government compensation through Medicare/Medicaid/CMS, and lastly, executive compensation of Hospital Corporation CEO’s/CFO’s/ etc., which takes money away from hiring nurses, technicians, and equipment needed for best outcomes. There are so many managers and middle managers collecting large salaries while the ones actually doing the work, who never see these manager or middle managers, complete the work with less money. The whole healthcare system is a mess and everyone thinks they are too important. And the politics in hospitals. And lets look at cancer in the US, why would they ever want to find a cure when it’s a multi-billion dollar business? Think of how many nurses, surgeons, oncologists, interventional radiologists, etc. would be laid off if a cure were found. So this is the real problem. We are asked to give money to the American Heart Association, The American Cancer Society, etc., etc., etc., and look at how much money their administrative people make, and not a lot to show for it. The physicians working hard are the ones making the innovations and passing them on, then a company picks up on an idea and markets it for millions. So now do you see what the problem is?
There are a few rules ACA set. Insurance is in charge. My career is based off third party reimbursement. Insurance is fine tuning and still denying. It isn’t ACA denying.
We need to eliminate “insurance.”
Aloha, The GOP is going to ruin this country… what we will end up with is such a wide gap between the rich and poor that we will never be able to bridge it. R.I.P. America you were once a great nation….
Why didnt he call him out on his false statement about having the best healthcare? Throwing softballs i see.
I love how the Republicans call it a “liberal media” when NO challenging questions are ever asked, and if they accidentally come across something embarrassing, the interviewer makes excuses for the the republidiot who is being interviewed! Liberal Media MY ASS!
Leslie is correct. Reagan and his bunch destroyed the economy and set the stage for this dysfunctional congress. George W Bush finished it off.
Pardon yo ignorance. Oblaimer finished us off.
And every year, Sen. Daniel Moynihan would stand on the senate floor and make a speech denouncing the Congress for stealing money from the Social Security fund to pay for weapons and other stupid things, endangering the future of our Senior Citizens. Nobody listened to him. BTW, the “crisis” that the Republicans are going to “solve” is invented by them. Social Security disability frequently is funded by Social Security retirement funds. Had been done that way since its inception. INVENTED CRISES are a GOP specialty.
both these pricks should be hung for treason
Every single politician should be, including Obama.
American health care system is the best in the world and innovative too - not to worry - Obama care has failed - UK health system is crashing - DON’T FIX WHAT AIN’T BROKE - It’s a State Issue - Republicans will improve Access - Republicans will increase, ‘Peace of Mind’ - all this, once Democrats are shoved aside!
Both political parties are screwing around because they’re just doing what their ‘handlers’ tell them to do, they know what the country and people need them to do to fix our sorry-ass government but they can’t! Why should the oligarchs fix anything since they’re making billions of dollars and would you ruin that!? The problem is will these same greedy and rapacious people leave the USA when they can no longer make money here and where would they go since the fall of our economy will have a “domino-effect” on the world economy so what the hell is their point if they destroy everything … blind, arrogant fools are too busy enjoying their power that they’re destroying themselves too … indeed the wiles of the devil is so alluring!?!
Medicare for everyone is a good idea, that’s what most developed countries have.
It’s like listening to a Sarah Palin stream of consciousness stump speech.
The Republicans best idea for healthcare WAS the ACA! The Dems wanted a single payer system and the Reps alternative was what we now call Obamacare! It was introduced by Nixon and enacted by Romney. Obama brought it out as a compromise to get the blue dog democrats on board. That is why the republicans don’t have a better idea. Obamacare WAS their better idea! LOL
And it’s still a horrible idea. Repeal that crap.
I agree that it’s not the best solution, but It’s better than what we had so getting rid of it would be stupid unless we had an alternative. Like a single payer system.
I knew when the Republicans gained control of both the House and Senate their first order of business would be to dismantle ACA, put the Keystone Pipeline business through. keep minimum wages at a standstill, challenge women’s reproductive rights. You’d think their first order of business would be to do things to further stimulate the economy so more good paying jobs could emerge. I guess all the people that voted for them and the ones that didn’t even bother to vote will be happy when they realize how much poorer they will become and how much richer the top 1% will get, so they can buy and dictate what the average Americans lives should be, and just think we don’t have Kings or Queens in this country!!
Never did answer the question…
At 72 years old,I remember many times reading that the U.S. Congress “Dipped into the Social Security Fund and left an I.O.U.” And I never remembered reading ANY of the Billions of MY SOCIAL SECURITY DOLLARS ever being put back into the fund + interest.
It’s good another reiteration on this comes out from time to time. Yes, I trust the GOP is fervent in what they believe. They are not good leaders however, only expressing what they are against. I had voted Repub in the past, but will no longer as long as the brains and analysis have left the scene, and only PR spin to feed their base support remains. With this formula, they will win midterms but they will not win the White House. We could be in for 20 more years of this crap, because the American people as a collective group are not smart enough to see what they are doing.
In public, red nation is literally that, another nation. Boehner inviting Netanyahu to Congress exemplifies this. Boehner’s issue is he is not strong enough politically to override an Obama veto that for anything that manages its way out of Congress. The political process is broken in its current state, has been for years, and no one seems too concerned about it. So fellow Americans, since you think you enjoy the gridlock and the political games out of Washington, enjoy because you are going to be in for a lot more of it. No meaningful legislation will become law originated by Congress until 2017, if Boehner feels good knowing the next 2 years of his life and the lives of tea partiers are a waste because of the gridlock, then more power to him. But it is a waste, and it is as simple as that. And since he will not be affecting my life because of this, I plan to be listening a lot less to all the BS emanating from Boehner (and Obama for that matter). When these people start becoming important again, I will start tuning in again, Obama’s so called effort at outreach at SOTU was disingenuous, anyone who followed the BS from this melodrama knew there will be no reconciliation. So why listen to their crap, it is not going to change.
First, I want to make clear that I believe McConnell and Boehner were horrible choices to lead the Congress simply because they seem more interested in playing politics than working for the people. On the other hand, the plan I think liberals totally overlook is that these two are going to let Obamacare destroy itself. The deeper question would be “How are you going to help Americans recover their health care once Obamacare crumbles?” or “Do you support a single payer system?” People in the media are so blind and stupid, they can’t even process what they see anymore outside of their liberal narrative.
“Um, Scott, I’m just a stuffed suit and not prepared to offer solutions for Americans. I am paid and programmed to characterize stuff this black guy is doing as ‘bad’.”
The Republicans have no intentions of repealing anything.. they’re so far left they make Hitler look like a right wing extremist. I have zero faith in any of the psychos in DC to do the right thing because *free* big money drives their will… we’re on our own on this..
There was no surplus. That was lie. They only balanced the budget. Spending continued like it always does and thats why the US has 17 trillion in debt. If there was a surplus it would have been used to pay down the debt. You can pretty much consider everything the TV tells you is a f*cking lie because it is…
So where do you get your information?
He puts on his tin hat, takes a couple of pills and smokes some weed. Then he turns on FOX and rolls around on the floor listening and soaking up the so called “fair and balanced” BS from them.
Actually, there was a surplus, and a growing one if they had stuck to the plan laid out by Clinton and the Republicans in Congress. Yes spending went up but they were taking in even more monies into the coffers than spending, thus the surplus.
Why we are 17 trillion in debt is in large part due to the spending and the compounding interest of Reagan, H.W. Bush and W. Bush administrations. Their flawed theory of trickle down economics mixed with massive deficit spending account for over $13 Trillion of the debt and climbing each year. And some of the biggest mismanagement of the debt you conservatives seem to obsess about now there’s a D in office, was the fact the Bush administration went against what Greenspan had advised to pay down the debt when given the chance they pushed through the 2001 tax breaks. Which for 98% of us was made permanent under Obama with the tax deal he made with Republicans and the 2% that saw an increase it simply went back to what it had been during Clinton years, an increase of 3%.
I’m not a conservative.. It amazes me how you Progressive types think Obama is a god, who has spent more money than all the presidents combined since George Washington, and has put more debt on our unwilling collective @sses than we want. What we aren’t taxed directly by, we’re getting taxed through inflation which hits everyone including the poor. You are a slave to a system of debt and psychotic laws written by psychos and this government can create as much inflation as they want and whenever they want. They might as well just beat our @sses too… anyone that puts their blind faith into a politician is a fool..
OK ghendric, Obama is not a God to correct you there, simply a man that was elected into a horrible situation from mismanagement and a serious error of economic theory for the previous 30+ years. Time to learn a little something. Obama is not responsible for the now 18 Trillion or so we are in debt. If you took the time to read my logical reply to you, to figure out how we got here you would know that. You would also know you must look back to when deficit spending and the national debt, 2 different things but tied together, exploded. That would be the 1980’s under the Reagan administration when he tripled the national debt, through deficit spending. His famous answer when asked about the debt, “it’s big enough to take care of itself.” That spending continued under HW Bush, and into Clintons years. Till the R’s took the House and started forcing the issue of the debt. Gingrich and Clinton eventually worked out a deal, AND in large part had the enjoyment of the tech boom that helped to fuel loads more revenue to go with some cuts and reorganization of programs. Thus while they were still increasing spending the boom and those cuts lead to a balanced federal budget and then eventually a surplus. But then W Bush came along and spending went way off the rails. Instead of following Greenspans advice to pay down the debt with the surplus they cut taxes thus eating up those gains, then defense spending went completely out of control and through in unfunded medicare part D, TARP, auto bailout, nationalization of commercial paper, AIG, they were all conducted under Bush administration, you see TRILLIONS in spending all put on the national debt. AND like any good loan, there is interest that must be paid on those burrowed funds. So when you combine all of that together you are it comes to being in the $13 trillion rage and counting of the national debt.
We are currently paying in the area of $223 Billion a year in interest on the debt. As for inflation it has been held around or under 2% since this president took office. And I don’t put my blind faith in anyone, especially a politician, I just like to know the numbers and facts when making a decision, and that comes with knowing where all this debt originated from. We must pull back the curtain and reveal the puppet masters instead of resorting to preconceived political dogma as the answer.
I know where the debt came from. I’ve been around a long time and I know how it really works. It still doesn’t change the fact that we have psycho’s running the show here. It’s only going to get worse with them in charge. It should be pretty obvious now that they’re trying to collapse the system. Apparently, that’s what psycho’s do because they’re psycho’s.. numbers mean nothing now… it’s still a system of slavery and they want you to suffer because they’re psycho’s…
You know ghendric, I had typed up a well thought out rebuttal but frankly after re-reading your last post there is no use to post it. Nothing will change your view on this subject, and it appears you would rather revert to name calling than a well thought out discussion. And if I can add, that’s the biggest problem with politics right now. The name calling and dehumanizing of someone with a counter view to marginalize any other opinion but your own. It’s sad we are at this level. However in the history of the US, we have been here before and the pendulum will swing back the other way eventually.
I know a few. they’re psychos. You haven’t seen it yet.. you will.. psychos are drawn to power..
First of all, I am a progressive and generally believe in many of the ideas Obama comes forth with! But have never thought of him as being a god! Furthermore, I doubt whether Obama has spent more than Reagan and the two Bush’s! Everything I have read on the subject claims exactly the opposite. Maybe you can provide us with some facts to prove your allegation! Otherwise you are just blowing something out of your a** and so I take as a grain of salt!
Yep. 17 tril. you idiot. 16of which Oblamer spent.
And his idiot followers always blaming others for their stupidity
OK, if you really think the current president has spent $16 Trillion deficit in 6 years in office you are not stupid you are delusional! And you also have no concept of basic facts or math. The US has been carrying an ever expanding debt since Reagan tripled it in the 80’s. It slowed in the 90’s under Clinton, EXPLODED under Bush in the 00’s and has climbed under Obama. However, just like a credit card there is such a thing as compounding interest. So when you factor the money spent and compounding interest from Reagan, HW Bush, and W Bush alone it comes to a total of over 13 Trillion and growing! Now don’t let the facts get in the way of your political dogma that I’m sure you will try to hang onto, but ain’t reality a bitch when the math is laid out in front of you? So go try and educate yourself a little before you make an even bigger ass of yourself skippy.
Those are asinine numbers, but maybe they make sense to ‘some’ people.
I guess the two wars and tax cuts for the upper class didn’t have anything to do with the deficits.
There’s only one idiot pointing out false data.
We have a 17 trillion dollar debt because of the two wars Bush got us into. Do think wars are free? Over ten years at war gets expensive. It is a given fact we had a surplus after Clinton fixed the fucked up problems created by Reaganomics.
How do you know that the knowledge you think you have about it isn’t propaganda? The only real way to know is to have to deal with it every day and you don’t do that do you? What its all a big lie?
You are obviously delusional to any sort of facts that have been provided on this issue. I sincerely hope you don’t vote & have not spawned any offspring that might carry on your genes that are obviously filled with ignorance and stupidity.
You’re delusional that you think every thing you read on the internet is true.. you haven’t got a clue about anything.. sheep… baaaaaaa…
There is NO ALTERNATIVE. End Commie Care, yes Commie Care, end it.
THAT is the ONLY alternative.
You have obviously never been to a communist run hospital.
What socialist hospitals have you frequented Mr know it all?
Obviously, since you know everything about me.
Obummer should be put in a rubber room in a mental hospital.
along with his communist cabinet.
8 years of Bush and Cheney and their unprecedented foreign policy disasters, turning Iraq into iran’s best ally and neglecting the Taliban in AFPAK while they made their comeback, and domestically driving the economy into a ditch with failed trickle down and lack of regulations. Than they followed this with 7 years of just say no politics with no compromise and no solutions, all the time demonizing the President and Dems and cheerleading for the governments failure. Yet, the Republicans gain control of Congress in the last midterms. Boehner and McConnell and the rest of the Republican leadership are the greatest con artists of all time. And the American voters are the suckers born every minute.
But we don’t have the best health care delivery system in the world…that’s the first lie.
Yep, not since the HMO Act of 1973.
An astute observer might connect each stage of deterioration with government efforts to “help” us. This begs the question, why do we want more of this “help”?
Sadly their base was not watching because it was on CBS and not FOX. So next Cheeto Man and Turtle Head will go on FOX and whine about the meany-heads at CBS and use their pretty words to make their FOX watching base think they actually know what they’re talking about.
Wow, either they are the biggest fools on the planet or they expect the viewers to be.
Shades of mittens “I have a plan…”
They still never answered the question of what their health care plan is. Obama said himself on several occasions, that he would be happy to change the bill if the GOP can come up with a better plan than his. And they haven’t. All they know is ‘repeal Obamacare’ and that’s it. They don’t even have a plan for the job markets and to end unemployment. Obama did all of that on his own and when he announced the positive outcomes during the SOTU address, none of the GOP applauded the success for any of it. They just want to see the country burn while being slaves to their corporate masters that feed them. GOP doesn’t have a moral bone in their bodies.
Boehner is a joke. If all you do is insult policies while giving no alternatives, then you really have no business being a politician. It’s for reasons like this that Washington gets nothing done. Maybe they should spend less time on their golf game and more time at the drawing board.
Best health care in the world? Hello, and the interviewer didn’t pull him up on that? So where’s your policy creepos? You’ve had years but you’ve got nothin’. Nothin’!
They have nothing because each individual person should be responsible for managing their own health care. We don’t need a government program. We need to eliminate “insurance” entirely and go back to paying doctors directly.
We’re all responsible.
I want to see Obamacare repealed, as well as all related laws back down to the HMO Act of 1973. Go back to the days where doctors made house calls and we paid them directly. No more insurance scams.
Oh I get it! Poison ALL those good, fresh wells, all of them, and start looking for some old, less clean and more costly ones! Yeah, that’s the ticket!
Don’t you mean, President Obama? You disrespectful, asses!
Now, take a look at Boehner’s fake smile. It is called lip service expression. He always talks without the smile at the end of “his” conclusion. Watch him very closely.
I don’t understand the thesis, so please, someone, indulge me: The absence of an alternative plan makes a bad idea good? “Something must be done! This is something.” Therefore, it must be done?
Why is it that Boehner/McConnell keep saying things about what the ACA does that is flat out wrong (death panels, takes away your insurance, interferes with doctor/patient relationship) and their “solutions” are to put in place what the law actually DOES do?
That was 3 min of Absolutely nothing, GOP. Nada, Zilch.
I’m a independent, and while I have disagreed with this President, as well as past Presidents since I became old enough to vote on certain issues. I will say this, “Thank You President Obama For The ACA!” I work full time, but the insurance that was offered was expensive and not very good. Now I have great insurance at a reasonable rate.
Root and branch? Who is going to help McConnell with the heavy lifting?
McConnel says the best case scenario for the ACA is the number of uninsured are reduced by 10 million. Ok… but how would a return to “patient-doctor privilege” Insurance cancellation, refusal to pay system we all loved before going to reduce the number of uninsured? They clearly want government out of healthcare. They dont support any plans to replace the ACA. They want to reduce taxes for health insurance companies and let people fend for themselves or in their own words take care of themselves.
LOL! Did they look embarrassed to you? Please! They straight just don’t care about common people or the hardships that middle class and poor people have. They are career politicians, living off of “all the people”, while representing the interests of “1% of the people”.
Knowing someone that has been spoiled by the Koch brothers (and other big business) for the past 10+ years and still thinking that they have your interests at heart, is ignorance.
“We can’t say what we’re for, because not enough of the public would be chumps enough to vote for us. We can’t be specific, because we’d get thrown out, even by the simpleton Goober vote.” - Mitch McTurtle
McTurle has more people on Obama Care then any state
about as dirty as one too
McDrunk and McTurtle are as useless as a used tampon
Boehner and McConnell are willing to sacrifice the middle class out of their own racists distortions of the needs of society. They pander to the wealthy and for the life of me, I cannot understand why people keep voting them back into power.
Pander to the wealthy, look at Wall St. right now, Obama is giving them billions, wake up! They are racist because they are white ? If people who voted for Obama because he is half black and his skin color must be racist correct?
How is Obama giving Wall Street millions. You constantly post these Absurd thoughts with no factual backup
Actually, I served three years in the US Army. That said,I protested the VietNam War, and have decried the illegal Bush wars. How would you know anything about the cloth I am cut from?
I don’t watch any of the news media liars… the latest fallout on NBC should prove that they’re all liars…
I don’t think my comment was in response to your post, but hey, I’m glad to see someone does their research. I think my response was against ghendric, who said all the information we get was false, so I just wanted to know where he found his.
Sorry, the way it looked under the discussion I thought you were asking me.
After Clinton their was no deficit from Reagan. Clinton left office and their was a surplus of money in the federal government. Their wasn’t a deficit again until after W took office. That is a proven fact.
Once again, you need to do some research yourself and quit believing everything you hear on Fox News or from rush Limbaugh, you quivering bag of conservative feces.
Hey Deeeeeeeewayne. I guess you can’t read either. The facts I posted were from;
1. Snopes
2. New York Times
Go argue with them. You’ve had your nose in the throne so long it’s starting to smell good to you.
Again, don’t bother me again with you’re less than dazzling thought until you back them up with some facts.
Masmani is a troll of epic proportions. Don’t go against the opinion of him/her or they will label you a hillbilly socialist or a gay bashing homophobe. Sounds like an ardent supporter of Boehner and McConnell.
Hey Deeeeeeeeeeeewine, Are you saying that 0bama has absolutely no affinity for the religion of his Father as well as the religion he was raised in in Indonesia? Are you saying he has no familial ties to Islam? Are you that idiotic? Sorry, that was a redundant question.
I swear those two don’t hear a thing! True, complain all you want, BUT WHAT IS YOUR PLAN! The Republicans have none, and never will have unfortunately! There only plan to to get rid of the ACA!
Old boys like Boehner and McConnell Are afraid Valerie Jarrett will ruin their legacy. Watching Boehner suck up to Obama makes me sick.
Tell us how Clinton balanced the budget. You may be shocked if you look it up
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Leslie, good post!