Liberals Answer ‘Memories Pizza’ Donation Scam With A Fundraiser For Charity, Not Hate

There is so much wrong with your post. For all your calls for a voice of reason, you failed to apply reason to anything you wrote.

“It’s not about gay or straight, it’s not about Democrat or Republican, and it’s not even about Christian or not.”

This issue IS about religion, particularly evangelical Christianity in America, versus LGBT persons. Yes, many individuals of other religions, and possibly some with no “formal” church affiliation are opposed to homosexuality. Quite frankly, in all my years I’ve met many Christians who were supportive of homosexuality and same-sex marriage, but I’ve NEVER met someone opposed to homosexuality and same-sex marriage whose views were NOT motivated by religion. Discrimination against homosexuals stems from religiosity. That’s a fact.

“The bill that allows a Christian or Muslim baker to say “no” to making a cake for same-sex couples ALSO gives a gay baker the right to say “no” to making a cake for hexterosexual couples if their religious views so dictate.”

But their religious views don’t dictate that. You’re well aware that nobody’s religious views dictate discrimination against heterosexual couples. Therefore, your example of mutual discrimination is a one-way street. Also, rather insultingly, you assume that LGBT persons value or covet the “freedom” to discriminate against those different from us “based on our sincerely held religious beliefs.” We don’t. We’ve been on the receiving end long enough to know full well that discrimination has no place in a progressive society.

Furthermore, while Christians and Muslims can deny a homosexual or same-sex couple service, homosexuals cannot respond in kind, because religious persons are a protected class, while homosexuals are not. Again, as you can see, the bill enshrines discrimination as a one-way street for religious persons.

Now, in a country where 77% of the population identifies as Christian, which religious persons do you think the RFRA was intended to benefit with special privilege to discriminate with impunity? Christians. Who do you think their target was, given the timing of the bill and the individuals Governor Pence surrounded himself with during the private signing ceremony, among other obvious factors? The LGBT community. The original bill was crafted very deliberately to give Christians carte blanche to discriminate against the LGBT community, while being protected from the same treatment. The bill’s agenda was so obvious and devoid of shame that even a significant number Christians and conservatives reacted negatively.

The bill clearly isn’t intended to protect ALL people. If it were, LGBT persons would be included as a protected class. You claim that the RFRA seeks to protect ALL people who simply want to act according to their religious convictions. That’s all well and good if you’re part of the 77% who identify as Christian. Non-believers and homosexuals are left out in the cold, of course, but at least the poor, persecuted majority is safe.

“Businesses are generally IN business to make a living and make a profit; why would ANY business choose to NOT serve someone UNLESS it was an issue of conscience?”

Are you that naive? Really? Plenty of businesses are willing to take a small hit in revenue to perpetuate an ideological dogma-fueled crusade against minorities. Why do you think black people are a protected class? Because businesses were willing to discriminate by erecting signs that stated, “We do not serve blacks.” Why do you think any protected classes exist? Minorities are vulnerable to discrimination and businesses are willing to participate in that discrimination.

“The haters are, in fact, those who have purposely set out to destroy MANY people of various religious backgrounds-Independents, Libertarians, Republicans, AND Democrats who hold their religious convictions sacred and non-negotiable.”

Many people? I’m pretty sure we could count them one one hand if we were honest. Nobody forced the Christian baker and the Christian florist to violate anti-discrimination laws. They destroyed themselves. Fact. If an LGBT business had refused service to a Christian customer based on their religion, under the same circumstances, they would have been punished in a similar manner, and rightfully so, for violating anti-discrimination laws.

This entire discussion doesn’t even address whether one’s antiquated “sincerely held religious beliefs” that are “sacred and non-negotiable” SHOULD trump human dignity or a public business owner’s responsibility to serve ALL of the public equally. After all, EVERY tax-payer funds the myriad of infrastructure that allows a business to operate.

In summary, the original Indiana bill allowed religious business owners and private individuals, in a country where 77% of religious persons identify as Christian, to discriminate with impunity against the LGBT community, while being protected from the same discrimination themselves. That’s Christian privilege. That’s why Indiana’s RFRA was garbage.

If you actually paid attention you would know, they have never refused to serve gays in the pizzaria, their only objection was to participating in a ceremony that goes against their beliefs. There is a difference. But a lot of liberals are too narrow minded to understand that.

Who has taken your right to your bigoted beliefs or your right to spout hateful speech whenever you want? Did you get arrested for it? And, lol @ “the intolerable left”…project much, bigot?

Thats because our Muslim loving president would skin them alive if they did.